Your unpopular boxing opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Mar 8, 2019.


  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

    18,772
    20,736
    Sep 22, 2021
    Wilfred Benitez's defence wasn't that great.
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    13,232
    11,541
    Mar 19, 2012
    I'm just getting warm
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,568
    Jan 30, 2014
    Interesting! What leads you to that conclusion?
     
  4. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

    1,566
    1,698
    Jun 23, 2021
    Julian Jackson's power is overrated
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,108
    5,696
    Feb 26, 2009
    so am I. It is kind of boring to go over it again.. Since most people know how I feel.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,108
    5,696
    Feb 26, 2009
    It was great head movement. Starling's defense was what was amazing. I always thought Honeyghan should have aimed high since he wobbled Starling with a punch up high.. Wilfred was great until he moved up to middleweight.
     
  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,923
    8,585
    Aug 15, 2018
    Well still stand by that Archie Moore takes apart Holyfield.

    Have to add (although more Fact than opinion) Rocky Marcianos defense was exceptional.
     
    Balder and Kamikaze like this.
  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    16,744
    27,470
    Aug 22, 2021
    It appeared to be a shot high on Liston's left cheek bone with an argument that the force lifted Liston's already levered left foot off the canvas.. I checked the point when Walcott stepped between them to finally stop the fight, Liston does keep walking toward Ali as if to continue and then it appears Walcott tells Sonny it's over. Definitely some paradoxical moments during the course of such a brief fight. It will always be a polarizing, non consensus talking point in boxing.

    I've watched a lot of treatments of this fight but was surprised to discover only in recent years a different view of the so called "phantom" punch which some of you have probably seen already. I don't know where this vision had been hiding for all these years, it's a must inclusion when examining this fight. It may or may not make anyone wiser to the actual impact but it's awesome vision all the same and if anything it conveys the speed and timing of the punch to best advantage.

    Go to 1:28, don't blink or you will miss it. When viewing I recommend slowing it down to X .25 for best viewing.

    This content is protected
     
    Kamikaze likes this.
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,128
    17,012
    Apr 3, 2012
    An upper left cheek shot can overlap with an equilibrium shot.
     
  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

    18,772
    20,736
    Sep 22, 2021
    The Curry fight.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    16,744
    27,470
    Aug 22, 2021
    I liked Howard Cosell's commentary and interviews. I also loved to hate them. Eccentric, verbose and without filter. Perfect straight man to Ali.

    I also didn't mind Don Dunphy, who some criticized for not duly modifying his commentary technique from radio to television. I don't know about that. Maybe Don said too little at times.

    Rd 13, The Thrilla, Ali CLEARLY knocks Joe's mouthpiece out and across the ring (some say that Joe's gum shield is still travelling through space to this day, at least one UAP explained). Anyway, throughout the whole scintillating punching sequence Dunphy says NOTHING until finding cause to note Padilla's equally obvious warning to Ali for holding behind the neck.

    At round's end, Dunphy finally notices that Joe had lost his mouthpiece (hello?) but he (Dunphy) also states that he didn't see when it happened. Whaaat? Methinks Old Don was perhaps prone to micro sleeps.
     
    Journeyman92 likes this.
  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    16,744
    27,470
    Aug 22, 2021
    Sure, I'm not debating the impact on the equilibrium one way or another. Just being more precise as to the point of impact as I see it.

    For a couple of classic examples of equilibrium shots I would nominate Tyson's short left on Berbick's right temple as the cherry on top and Tyson's right hand on Holme's left temple for the first KD. Both recipients still somewhat cognizant but well robbed of their balance.
     
  13. GeoZe

    GeoZe New Member Full Member

    54
    31
    Sep 23, 2021
    Khan's chin is not glassy, he is careless and leaves himself open for huge shots that would take out most welterweights.
     
  14. Claw4075

    Claw4075 Ezzard Charles GOAT Full Member

    338
    320
    Aug 27, 2021
    Every.Single.Thing about Sonny Liston is overrated as s*#t.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,108
    5,696
    Feb 26, 2009
    I don't think Riddick Bowe was overrated, but his resume was as far as anyone saying he was a great fighter.