⭐⭐⭐Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder III WEIGH IN LIVE!⭐⭐⭐

Squash the pietyfest, you pair of buzzkills.



This is a Fury party thread, mind and senses purified...

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No. I think it's human nature to make excuses. Most defeated fighters will make a few minor complaints or mention an injury or some imperfect training camp or something ...... But most fighters make excuses but also give their opponents some credit. They don't accuse the opponent of a whole bunch of crazy cheating methods, and they don't accuse the commission of being in on it, they don't accuse their chief second of being in a conspiracy to assist the opponent, or make it a grand racist conspiracy. Can't you see that Wilder's accusations go far beyond some "excuse making"? Really, haven't you noticed that this is not normal level of excuse making? He's slandered people left, right and centre, and made a mockery of the sport. He's an embarrassment.

There's no evidence that Fury tried to cheat against Wilder.
There's a more credible accusation that Fury had nandrolone in his sytem in early 2015 against Christian Hammer, which the UKAD disclosed to him about 16 months after that fight, and which Fury's lawyers and UKAD battled over for ages. Let's take the side of the UKAD and say Fury took PEDs then, for a fight almost 7 years ago. I don't know if he did or not. But let's say he did. How is that relevant to Wilder or now?
It's just one of many PED cases in boxing, a sport where PEDs are rife.
People can take whatever view on that they like. If you are strongly against PEDs, then you can take a strong view against all the fighters who have been caught or accused.

But, no, it does not compare to Wilder's extensive slander. Wilder's rants are unprecedented in their stupidity. That's my opinion, and millions share that opinion.

Maybe a few months from now. I tend not to post here much these days.

 

Bring it home baby!!!

Time to crack a beer and do some lines.

Yeah thats right Wilder 'crack head'.

 

what are the official weghts?

 

I'd pay to see that, in fact I am

 

I'm starting to think it may be brain damage

 

Could be.
Good luck this time anyway,

 

Yeah good luck to you too, let's just hope it's a great fight, no controversy and the best man wins on the night.

 

Wlad-Fury was a massive upset, very few "experts" gave 4/1 Fury a chance to win, in the other three the bookies gave Fury less than a 50% chance. Not being the underdog doesn't even necessarily mean the fight is a mismatch: Fury was -200 in the McDermott rematch (longer odds than AJ for his closest odds fight, which was -220 against Wlad and his next closest against Usyk) and throwing a 21 year old with less than a year's pro experience, a limited amateur background, 7 pro fights and only 9 full rounds completed in with a 30 year old, 30 fight British level veteran like McDermott was highly ambitious in the first place. Fury was also -200 in the Chisora rematch and is -280 tonight, against the man with the biggest puncher's chance in boxing history. Fury was happy to be a +265 underdog against Haye but Haye saw the writing on the wall and pulled out twice. The idea that Fury beats up on overmatched opposition is absurd: relative to who?

I doubt there is a HW champion in history who has been an underdog or even close odds in most of his fights, if there is he's a vanishing exception. You have to go back to Holyfield or possibly Ali (who had plenty of bum fights themselves, like virtually everyone else) to find a heavyweight champion who has upset the odds more frequently than Fury.

 

Wilder will break his hand tonight.

 

The bookies have been doing this for a long time, have more access to information and are less biased than practically anyone on boxing forums. Their opening odds are typically far more reliable than the subjective opinions of boxing fans.

Wilder was ranked as the 10th top contender by Ring in 2013, has been a top 2-3 ranked Ring heavyweight since 2016 and was a 5 year reigning WBC champion with 10 defences (9 KO's). Wlad was also widely disparaged by hordes of ignoramuses on boxing forums during his reign, as were Holyfield and Holmes by fans and "experts" alike well before that. Champions, especially dominant ones, are often distained during their own time.

Does Wallin also become a "top opponent" if he outboxes Whyte? Why isn't top 10 ATG cruiser Cunningham away from home also a "top opponent"? Why does Fury get credit for fighting the most dangerous puncher in boxing history just once when he's fighting him for a 3rd time tonight? (every time away from home). Or "top opponent" Chisora once when he's fought him twice? The fights in between Wilder were meant to be warm-up/tune-up fights (two of them directly after a long and troubled layoff) for one of the top 2 HW's aside from himself; a far better and more dangerous HW than the likes of Andy Rice Pudding Ruiz Jr. x2 and 39.5 year old, 13 months inactive Kubrat Pulev. Over the last 3 years those are 3/4 of AJ's opponents, with relatively light punching ex-cruiser Usyk rounding off the list who AJ got schooled by at home, making it 2 crushing losses to underdogs (one 10/90, the other 30/70) in the last 3 years/4 fights.

Wilder has at least been the underdog on one occasion, unlike AJ (tonight) and has been close to even money three times (Stiverne 1, Fury 1, Fury 2). Usyk has been a big underdog once in his career (AJ away) and close to even money once (Gassiev away). Joyce has been a big underdog once (Dubois). Which top fighter in the division taken more dangerous fights than Fury (and won) since possibly Holyfield? There is none, so it's a BS criticism from someone with a biased agenda.

 

Wilder has been obsessed with fury's size since the start. I also think the extra weight won't do him any favours. He's going to be slower and he's going to gas faster. Fury already reads him like a book; not a good idea to give him any fractions of a second extra to react.