Did Bodybuilder screw up everything?

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Is it all because of Anthony Joshua?

    It is useless to go around it: tonight's challenge between Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder has lost a bit of appeal. Theres no comparison between the tons of posts we made on USyK v Joshua and the posts on tonight fight.
    Not because the WBC world heavyweight belt is worthless or because the two champions who will compete for the third time are pooped or unmotivated. But, simply, because the Made in Uk derby for the reunification of the belts was very exciting.
    But nothing. Because when the fight was set, the signatures on the contracts were already there first Fury let himself be dragged to court by Wilder (for not too much resistance) who demanded the third challenge. And then, above all, Joshua has still put gas in the tank of his detractors going to lose in front of the 60,000 spectators of the New White Hart Lane against the Ukrainian Oleksandr Usyk. Who now, with his immaculate record of 19 out of 19 wins, enjoys the WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO champion belts.

    Fury said Bodybuilder cost him a "few" pounds. Tyson Fury never loses the desire to joke and provoke. But the bitter joke is true. The derby wanted by the sheikhs in Saudi Arabia would have generated income for the two protagonists for something like 250 MILLIONS!!!!
    While the world championship scheduled at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas (live from 3 on Sky Sport Primafila and LiveNow) will guarantee only about forty at the Gipsy King and less than thirty at the Bronze Bomber. Net of the proceeds deriving from the pay-per-view, which will be divided between 60 and 40% between champion and challenger. Anyway, no more rogue nostalgia for what could have been. Because the Nevada challenge is anything but trivial.

    The deviation of the reunification of the belts, however, now risks producing unpredictable paths. The WBC expects the winner of this challenge to face Dillian Whyte, who is the interim heavyweight champion of this acronym. While, on the other hand, Usyk seems intent on giving rematch to Bodybuilder.
     
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  2. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua didn't screw up anything. The Fury fight was basically made until Wilder came in and screwed up everything. Granted, Joshua didn't have to fight Usyk but he might as well have, seeing as he hadn't fought in a year and had to do something to keep himself busy while Fury and Wilder settled their business

    It's Wilder and his delusional nonsense that spoilt the made in UK derby

    Of course, when I opened the thread I thought your premise would have been 'Did Joshua's bodybuilding inspire Wilder to do the same?' Which would have been a much more interesting topic
     
  3. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    No it is Tyson Fury who signed for the Wilder rematch then stalled the rematch that caused the AJ vs Fury bout not to have happened.
     
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  4. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury woulda beat him up anyway
     
  5. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder and haymon screwed it up by not taking the dazn deal, then ruiz threw that hook to joshuas ear and then a huge wilder vs joshua fight where both are undefeated went poof to never happen again.
     
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  6. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    He signed the rematch clause but the whole idea was the clause had expired because they didn't make the fight by a certain date. Then Wilder took it to court and some arbitration judge ruled in Wilder's favour, even though the clause was expired
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Yes. Bloatmaxing is the way, the truth and the light.

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  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Youre right. This unification seems cursed. Lets hope USyK and the winner of tonight fight reach an agreement in a short time.
     
  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Fury let Wilder drag him to court? LOL There is a thing called a contract. When both parties sign the contract, it is binding. Wilder held Fury to the contract, nothing more, nothing less. I will say it again. If Fury acted like a professional and got the 3rd fight over with at the 3-4 month mark after the 2nd fight, we would be getting ready for Fury, AJ tonight. Nobodies fault but Fury.
     
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  10. LucioFulci

    LucioFulci New Member Full Member

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    Fury screwed everything by not being honest about his status with Wilder, If he would have manned up and fought Wilder in January or February, this could be Fury-Joshua.

    In any event, it allowed Usyk to fulfill his destiny. I will always be a Fury fan, but he deserved to learn this painful lesson.
     
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  11. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Well Judge Weinstein a very experienced legal eagle said the third fight must be honoured, he interpreted the legal rights and wrongs and made a definitive judgement in favour of Wilder.

    Arum appeared unwilling to dig deep to offer big step aside money to Wilder (and Wilder might well have said no anyway) however i am sure a big enough amount with a signed deal that Wilder would get first challenge to the winner of the Fury vs AJ bout would have been grabbed by Wilder.

    The twists and turns of big money bouts.
     
  12. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    AJ would have lost to Fury so it didn’t matter. Hope we see Usyk vs Fury next year. If Wilder wins tonight he’s going to hold the belt hostage and fight bums again.
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem was Fury most likely never made Wilder a reasonable offer in good faith from the time Wilder invoked the rematch clause to when it expired, so I can see why an arbitrator would rule in Wilder’s favor, since Fury’s actions could be considered a breach of contract and the covenant of good faith and fair dealing.

    Fury was extremely lucky their contract had an arbitration provision, since in court a Judge would’ve heavily fined Fury much like when Rahman got heavily fined when Lewis took him to court to make Rahman honor the rematch clause.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    True, bit the clause was initiated prior to the expiration date. The date was not made due to Fury getting Covid, I think. Correct me I'm wrong. Wilder did his part and inacted clause in time.
     
  15. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    That's not the point. The point is that we could have had a big money unification bout.