Wilder needs to retire.

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  1. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    Watching it I thought it was more of a strategy by Fury to be patient and control the rounds as a first priority.
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Wilder seems mentally weak to me. Will be interesting how he does after two KO lost. Will he shell up after eating a hard punch? With Fury pride kept him going. All the destiny , pride, indestructible bull is gone.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Actually, he landed 52.
     
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  4. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Avoided a ducked? He did not fight any one good besides Fury and should be 0-3 in those fights, not 0-2-1.

    Who did he beat again?
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I can understand that. And I'd be happy if he did.

    However, fights with AJ and Whyte are still viable fights that would make decent headlines.

    But is it worth the possible additional trauma, hard to say.
     
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  6. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    Definitely think his stock is better even after the L because so many questions were there after a weak performance in fight 2 plus the pandemic layoff if he'd still have the fire.
     
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  7. kirk

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    Thing is... what made Wilder dangerous was his speed.

    He will likely be 37 next time he fights.

    The ingredients that made him a force won't be what they were...
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    It was nothing serious. Also Wilders entire style revolves around him landing a huge right. Wlad was always overly cautious, also Wlad hits harder
     
  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder needs a few tune ups, then take on AJ.

    AJ can't take his power, and AJ just ain't throwing like he used to. Wilder in 10.
     
  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t know what he has left. Needs a tuneup in about 8-10 months and then Joshua. Otherwise, retire.
     
  11. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Nah. Fury was tiring himself and didn't have the energy to throw the sustained combinations needed to get Wilder out of there sooner. If he were a power puncher Wilder wouldn't have lasted four rounds.
    I kind of think back to Razor Ruddock. Razor Ruddock was a one punch power puncher same as Wilder just with more dimensions. Went twelve rounds with Tyson, never the same again.
    AJ's not stupid. He's not going to allow Wilder 10 rounds to throw that big punch at him
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well, neither of us have ever been hit by either of them, so we cannot definitely say now can we? And no, Wlad landed a few clean rights late.
     
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  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    You misunderstand.

    No one will fight him simply because the risk reward wouldn't be right. You're not going to risk your ranking on a guy who can keep throwing hard rights after you beat the hell out of him, so top ten or so guys like say Joe Joyce won't want to risk their standings and chances for a shot at a belt.

    Wilder also isn't the guy up and comers would be hoping into the ring with to prove themselves as he can still decapitate them.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think his biggest problem is he can't fight
     
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  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Wilder could be in some interesting fights: Joshua, Sanchez, Ruiz, Whyte, Usyk, Hrgovic, Makhmudov, Hunter, Anderson. Lots of potential good matchups for him.