Wilder beats the crap out of AJ

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  1. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Dunno. Could be that Wilder has a good chin, could be that Fury just isn't that powerful. Powerful enough to keep hurting him but not powerful enough to knock him out.
    In any case, Wilder took a lot of punishment but he didn't really have anything to fight back with. He'd pray to God a power puncher like Joshua never put him in that position
     
  2. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    And Joshua isn't?
     
  3. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua's proven a couple of times that he can box as well as punch. He's at least a two dimensional fighter. Wilder is a one trick pony
     
  4. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll rewatch it at some point but Wilder felt like he still had a punchers chance up until round 8 or so. Didn't he hurt Fury in one of the later rounds?

    My opinion is that Wilder is still dangerous when hurt. Joshua isn't.
     
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  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But would Joshua be able to maintain half the onslaught that Fury put on today to put him in that position though? We’ve seen Joshua punch himself out while trying to go for the kill several times, and one thing Wilder proved tonight both in the 4th and 10th is that he’s still dangerous while hurt.
     
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  6. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    All the fight was out of him by round 6.
    He got him with a pretty good uppercut but it didn't seem to do much
    Wilder, when hurt, will go for broke and try to land that big hand or else get himself knocked out. Joshua doesn't do that. What Joshua does, and you can see this against Whyte, Klitschko and Ruiz 1, is when hurt he'll return to his boxing skills, stick behind the jab and try to survive the rounds until he can recover. It doesn't always work, see Ruiz I, but if it does he's got a better chance of knocking you out than Wilder does by flailing wildly and throwing caution to the wind
     
  7. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury has a pretty good HW punch, how could you watch this fight & conclude otherwise? If he did not then Wilder has a feather chin-which is also untrue.
    We have no evidence that AJ is roided at all. He could be, but Wilder had more upper body mass, & Usyk for his height was close in muscle weight. Assuming guilt with no evidence is deeply unfair.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he might even be able to put up a bigger onslaught than Fury.

    Let's not pretend Fury is some non stop punching machine, on the contrary he's a very economical puncher. Joshua in losing to Usyk threw about 256 more punches than Fury did last night. Remember Fury/Wlad that wasn't some barn stormer, very few punches were thrown and landed by Fury. Fury/Wilder 3 was entertaining but the pace was very sedate, Fury averaged 35 punches per round.

    Imagine Joshua throwing just 40-50 punches per round, Wilder would be gassed by rd 3 based on last nights performance.
     
  9. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    37 year old short notice Carlos Takam took a roided to the gills 254 lbs AJ's punches for 9.5 rounds until the referee decided to give AJ a gift stoppage to preserve his KO ratio. Breazeale took over 6 rounds and 166 punches before the ref stepped in, Wilder iced him with one punch in the first round. Even a badly faded inactive Pulev went 27 minutes with AJ ffs. AJ's a massively overrated puncher and Fury has always been massively underrated.

    AJ's got a soft chin, poor powers of recovery and shot confidence: even relative non-punching cruiser Usyk had him on wobbly legs multiple times. These is no blueprint for AJ to follow because he's a vastly inferior fighter to Fury physically, technically and psychologically. AJ would have got blasted out early. Hopefully he signs to fight Wilder after Usyk batters him for a second time but I highly doubt he will, Hearn knows.
     
  10. Ilesey

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    In fairness I always thought Wilder could beat Joshua.

    Still a real pick em for me.
     
  11. PistonHondai

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    AJ already proved he has no heart the first fight with Ruiz when he didn’t want to continue and just stayed in the corner when the ref asked him to.

    Can’t imagine AJ going the distance if he were in Wilders shoes tonight.
     
  12. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Nonsense. It's easy to throw jabs against a relative non-puncher in a non-physical fight, much harder to throw consistent power shots against one of the biggest punchers in boxing history in an all-out brawl. AJ's chin and powers of recovery wouldn't hold up to Wilder's bombs and his confidence is shot.
     
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  13. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    AJ's got far less experience than Wilder (fewer fights, fewer wars, fewer wars won, fewer styles/body types faced) as AJ-fanboy Wlad noted when an AJ-Wilder matchup was all the rage. AJ walks on to a right hand, can't recover and gets windmilled to death.
     
  14. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Wilder stiffened Fury's legs at the end of the 10th, he was dangerous until the end.
     
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  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I strongly disagree. A lot of the punches Joshua threw against Usyk were jabs. Fury from tonight was a lot more active than Joshua against Usyk when you look at the powerpunches. And Fury’s onslaught wasn’t just punches, It was pushing Wilder around, leaning on him, ragdolling and headlocking him and working to the body in the clinches, none of which Joshua does or does good.
     
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