Just want to point something out

Have you not seen general? Everyone acts like fury’s the goat

 

Agree with this.

I think the last fight proved that Fury has guts, but I have never really rated Wilder that highly. If your career is summed up by "Beat Ortiz, got a gift of a draw vs Fury, crushed a bunch of cans" it does not make you a good measuring stick. I think Joshua is way better than WIlder and I think he'll prove that should they ever fight.

 

Yup I get that the scrap was entertaining and all that but let him fight Usyk first before crowning him as the de facto ruler of the heavies, recency bias is a helluva drug.

Now since he's damaged the delusional Dosser everyone thinks he's got the best pair of hairy jiggly tits in the town.

 

I think the American media have probably done this as he beat the American champion. It kinda props Wilder up I guess, which you can understand. But yeah the other media outlets around the world have too, so I get what you’re saying.

Like, he almost definitely is the best HW, but beating Wilder doesn’t definitively prove it.

 

Fury was crowned in Dusseldorf in 2015.
Yes, beating old Wlad does cut the mustard, because Wlad was regarded as the champion by everyone in boxing at that point (even the managers of new WBC champ Wilder conceded Wlad was the real champ at that point).
You beat the champ, you're the champ.

Then, Fury went AWOL and gave up his belts. But since he came back 3 years ago he has remained undefeated, defeated Wilder 3 times in reality (twice officially, and by KO), and there's no reason to deny him the crown.
He's #1 at the moment.

Usyk is #2 and the outstanding challenger to Fury at the moment, and might well go on to take that crown from Fury. But there's no need to deny Fury his #1 position right now.

 

My point is that beating Wilder for the third time doesn't prove it, he needs to fight someone who can push his **** in someway other than just posing the threat of the big right hand.

I feel the #1 spot in HW is up for the grabs between Usyk and Fury, whoever wins should be the man of the division.

 

Exactly. If they wanna crown him as the best of this generation, he need to beat Usyk/Joshua or both.
I also don't get why some people totally miss the aspect of that he ducked Klitschko rematch twice.
In my book that hurt him big time.

 

Absolutely it's up for grabs. This linear heavyweight championship is a total myth anyway. Fury beat a near the end Wlad, took 3 years off and then drew and beat twice an average heavyweight with a thin resume. In the meantime Usyk became undisputed cruiser champ and now holds 3 of the 4 main belts. How the **** can Fury be the undisputed number one in the division? The american boxing media are biased and usually totally ignorant. Had to laugh when Kenny said Usyk had 2 belts. He knows all to well Usyk has 3 but any reason to down grade Usyk will suffice even fibbing about how many belts he has. **** even the hostess of their ppv pretended she wasn't at Usyks fight the week before. It's laughable. It beggars belief how anybody can view an Usyk masterpiece the week before and then watch Fury on the weekend and declare that Fury is clearly the champ.

 

His win against Wlad was not even close. He beat Wlad very clearly without even doing anything much. It was horribly dull and one-sided.
He harmed his legacy by going AWOL for almost 3 years but there was nothing in the Wlad fight that makes a missed rematch much of an issue.