Just want to point something out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Oct 11, 2021.


  1. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My opinion is Fury walks through both AJ and Usyk in a few rounds.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Judging by the scorecards and from what i remember, it wasn't anything like that. Beating someone convincingly is what Usyk did to Joshua, or what Fury did to Wilder in the second fight.
    Klitschko fight was decided by throwing/landing just a few punches more, and main reason was that Klitschko for whatever reason not throwing enough punches, and not engaging enough, he was simply inactive. But most punches from Fury was actually a dog**** weak body punches in the clinch, which are counted as power punches in the compubox(b.c. system).
    And the rematch would actually tell the whole story. Was it just a fluke and Klitschko having a bad day at the office and just not shows up on the night , no matter that he was out of his prime already, and can Fury be consistent and deliver again, or it was a one hit wonder. So yeah running out of the rematch speaks a lot, as well as what he did after.
    And this was a 100% deserving rematch, cause Klitschko was a long time reigning champion. I don't know how people are still giving Fury excuses for that. It was a blatant Duck, done TWICE. If AJ has done that, he would have been s***** all over the place for it.

    And btw people on here(not visiting you) were saying the same thing on Ruiz. Oh he won CLEARLY by a mile, AJ had no chance at all in the rematch, and in the rematch Joshua won 11 rounds to 1 ....
    Just like the Lewis 2 loses. If Rahman and McCall has ducked him, people would still to this day claim that he won't be able to beat them in the rematch ....
    At the end of the day, when you sign a contract with a rematch clause, you are obligated to do it.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. AJ is 32. Fury is 33. Usyk is 34. These are his peers. How can you crown Fury when he hasnt fought the other top 2 Heavies of his generation?
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well he fought one in 2015; then he fought another one in Wilder a bit later (after Ruiz had beaten Joshua and before Usyk had come to the division).

    So that's two.

    How many top two guys does he have to fight? You should be careful with your answer because it's rare. Wladimir Klitschko, for example, managed it twice.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    But Fury is the GOAT though

    And I don't mean just the GOAT at HW

    I mean the GOAT period

    Being unbeatable>> who you've beaten :facepalm:
     
  6. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How is he not at the top of the heap if he beat the undisputed 20 title defense reigning champion and drove him into retirement? Lest we forget that Fury never actually lost the belts around Usyk's waist in the ring, he was stripped. Fury has held all 4 belts (really 5 if you count the ring). So yes, Fury is most assuredly at the top of the mountain.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Excellent post and agree with it. If Wlad had landed literally 2 punches extra every round he's have swept it. That version of Wlad was crap, the same as the version of Fury in #3 of the Wilder / Fury series was crap. The difference is that Fury was facing Wilder, who is a stiff dosser that can't box which is why he managed to pull it off.
     
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  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    In my opinion AJ had a better resume than Tyson Fury before he fought Usyk. Usyk beat the brakes off AJ so to me he's ahead now. Wilder x3 doesn't terribly impress me. If you want to argue that the number of fights Fury has had at proper HW puts him ahead then that's the quantity is quality argument, which is also valid. In that case they are about equal.

    If Wilder fights AJ and smashes him then Usyk's stock drops and vice versa.
     
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