the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Such claims are usually sour grapes, but seeing this fight I do believe his claim. He didn't seem like the same guy.

 

I think you subtly yet perfectly summed up Griffith here sal. While he did possess underrated punching power in the early 60s before he effectively killed Benny Paret, he was still not a monster puncher. I think he relied on his superb boxing ability and body strength and physical resilience rather than punching power, in order to defeat an opponent.

 

Joey Giardello v Randy Sandy

I wanted to check out a Giardello fight today and I started watching his fight with Al Andrews. That fight was such a dud I aborted after a couple of rounds. But I did find his fight with Randy Sandy, which I enjoyed. Here we go, 5 point must in effect.

Round 1: 5-4 Giardello
Round 2: 5-4 Giardello
Round 3: 5-4 Giardello
Round 4: 5-5 Even
Round 5: 5-4 Sandy
Round 6: 5-4 Giardello
Round 7: 5-4 Sandy
Round 8: 5-4 Sandy
Round 9: 5-4 Giardello
Round 10: 5-5 Even

Total: 47-45 Giardello (actual scores: 47-45 and 48-44 both for Giardello and a 47-46 for Sandy)

Gotta admit it was a toughie to score. There were many very close rounds. When Joey was ring center he was golden. He was able to get off his shots on the forward motioning Sandy. However, in the middle rounds Randy discovered great success with crowding Joey and not giving him elbow room to get off his sharp counters off the ropes. By the 9th - perhaps gaining a second wind - Joey held the fight in ring center once again and they fought it out to the wire in the 10th. Again very close. One thing about Sandy, he ended up with a poor 24-24 record, but he was a real spoiler who fought everyone. And every so often he would pull out a good win as Emile Griffith and Dick Tiger would attest.

 

Roberto Duran v Davey Moore

It's funny, but I have never seen this fight in its entirety before. I've always seen highlights on the fight from day 1, but for some reason, never started it at the beginning, which I am now rectifying.

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Duran
Round 3: 10-9 Duran
Round 4: 10-9 Duran
Round 5: 10-9 Duran
Round 6: 10-9 Duran
Round 7: 10-8 Duran (scores a knockdown)
Round 8: Duran stops Moore

Total: 70-63 Duran (actual scores: 70-65, 70-65 and 70-64 all for Duran)

He may have been slower than his lightweight and welterweight days, but Duran's viciousness remained. Man, you do not want to give this guy the taste of blood like he had in the 8th. Despite this, Moore got in his licks as it was a well-matched bout stylistically, but Duran was not to be denied. One last thing, shame on Moore's corner for not pulling him out of there in the 8th. I kept waiting to see a towel floating in. The ref as well was poor. He made no effort in stopping it until he saw the doctor get up on the apron. Man, what were they waiting on?!

 

Scar, a while back I uploaded a high quality 60FPS version of Duran vs Moore, with no commentary. If you, or any other posters, want to check it out, here it is.

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Been on a Marvin Hagler binge over the last few days as there were actually a few of his title defenses I'd never got round to watching in full. That is now rectified and here's one of them.

Marvin Hagler v Mustafa Hamsho 1

Forty years ago this month... Marvin Hagler gives one of his most complete performances against a very rough, tough and awkward challenger in Mustafa Hamsho. It was a punch perfect performance from the greatest middleweight of the last 40 years and showed all the strings to his bow.

Hagler took his time when he realised that Hamsho wasn't going anywhere from even his stiffest punches and just kept up a steady stream of solid jabbing, slick footwork and head movement and sharp, pinpoint combinations. Hamsho landed a few good shots of his own and landed something in most rounds but Hagler was in almost complete control throughout.

A brilliant performance from a great, great fighter.

1 10-9
2 10-9 (Hamsho trying to rough Hagler up but Hagler doing the more precise punching)
3 10-9
4 10-9 (inspection of Hamsho's face by the ring doctor)
5 10-9 (closer as Hagler making Hamsho look sloppy but the Syrian landing some decent shots)
6 10-9
7 10-9
8 10-9
9 10-9
10 10-9
(100-90)
11 Hagler TKO Hamsho

 

Thanks, Rough, your version is a beauty. The version I watched wasn't bad, but it had Jake and Vicky LaMotta commentating and eventually late in the fight they started disagreeing and if the fight went any longer I think it would have turned into an argument. Go figure.

 

Love this fight. Hagler was damn near perfect as you say, and Hamsho was tough to the point of taking 55 stitches for his efforts. He must have looked like a baseball afterward. The cuts were a major part of it to be sure, but by the tenth Hamsho's legs were also beginning to fail him.

Hagler's first million-dollar purse, too.

 

I watched a very nice quality version of this on YouTube with commentary provided by the HBO '80s trio of the wonderful Barry Tompkins, Sugar Ray Leonard (still an active fighter at that point and fresh from his victory over Thomas Hearns the previous month) and, of course, Larry Merchant.

Leonard was suitably impressed by Hagler throughout and at the end, Thompkins called Hagler 'the best middleweight today... and maybe ever'. Watching this fight, that statement didn't sound like hyperbole.

 

Katsuo Tokashiki v Lupe Madera II

Don't know if anyone has caught this. This is the second in their 4 bout series. Here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Madera
Round 2: 10-9 Madera
Round 3: 10-9 Madera
Round 4: 10-9 Madera
Round 5: 10-9 Madera
Round 6: 10-9 Madera
Round 7: 10-9 Madera
Round 8: 10-9 Madera
Round 9: 10-9 KT
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 KT
Round 12: 10-8 Madera (Madera wins the round and Tokashiki is penalized for use of the elbow)
Round 13: 10-9 Madera
Round 14: 10-9 KT
Round 15: 10-9 KT

Total: 146-139 Madera (actual scores: 145-144 Madera, 145-143 Tokashiki and a 144-144 Even for a Draw)

I feel the judges were far too generous to Tokashiki who was on the receiving end of Madera's sharp punches until the latter half of the fight when Madera began tiring. Of course the usual raucous Japanese crowd could sway a judge I'm afraid. But it is what it is and Tokashiki retains his title on a Draw, although I had Madera winning fairly comfortably.

 

William, here's what I had this fight at, from a few pages back. Nice upload!

 

Sorry, disregard. William's writeup on this was a few pages back apparently. No longer germane.

 

Nice writeup Sal.

 

Veeraphol Sahaprom v Hugo Dianzo (bantamweight title)

I was looking for Dianzo v Paulie Ayala. I remember watching it but not scoring it and Teddy Atlas making a huge deal about what a bum decision it was when they raised Paulie's hand. Wanted to score it but couldn't find it. But I did find his shot at the 118 lb. title against Veeraphol Sahaprom, so here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 VS
Round 2: 10-9 VS
Round 3: 10-9 VS
Round 4: 10-9 VS
Round 5: 10-9 Dianzo
Round 6: 10-9 VS
Round 7: 10-9 VS
Round 8: 10-9 VS
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Dianzo
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 VS

Total: 118-112 Sahaprom (actual scores: 118-110, 118-110 and 117-111 all for Sahaprom)

Although Dianzo had a nice boxing style with sharp punches, Sahaprom simply won it on his harder punching. Everything he threw just had more 'oomph' than Dianzo's work. I do think Dianzo should have concentrated on the body more though. When he did work the body he threw some really nice shots but would then lighten up. Sahaprom a solid winner in a scrappy contest.