Yeah you knew it was coming. Where do you rankTyson Fury in h2h?

You have to respect Wilder's heart . His pre & post fight behaviour ,No!

 

"Some"=Evander Holyfield

 

No, Bowe beat better fighters than Ortiz without mentioning Holyfield.

 

You'd have to be an idiot to think Gonzalez ends up doing anything but getting murdered by Wilder.

Malik Scott wasn't much different from an old Tubbs.

Ortiz wouldve handled Golota and anyone else Bowe beat, short of Holyfield.

Stiverne would be a favorite over Golota too. Stiverne never minded having a rough fight.

 

You simply do not know boxng if you think that's true. I suggest watching Ortiz's fights with Jennings and Kayode, as you seem to have no clue who Ortiz is.

 

Yeah, it's a good way to discuss - "you don't know boxing if you disagree with me".

Ortiz is a hypejob who fought nobody notable and his ability got exaggarated before the Wilder fight. Gołota trashes Ortiz resume and he's nothing special either.

 

I completely agree I'm an idiot...I'm just wondering how much better even the best of Wilder's titular opponents were than Gonzalez.

 

Ortiz demolished a top 5 and Golota failed to ever beat a top ten, including Michael Grant and John Ruiz.

 

For a start, Bryan Jennings wasn't top five. He was ranked eighth. Second of all, Jennings is a ****ing nobody. The guy is a gatekeeper, and not even the best gatekeeper of the worst era ever. Beating him is nothing to proud of. Especially if it's your ONLY win of note.

Ortiz isn't anything special on film either, and I find it absolutely hilarious that the Kayode is brought up despite it not even being a win due to failing a drug test.

The version of Tony Tubbs who fought Bowe would ****ing annihilate any Malik Scott ever. Tony Tubbs still would beat Malik Scott now.

 

You're aware this "nobody" Jennings was top 5 during the Klitschko era?

Wladimir Klitschko, Champion

1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Bermane Stiverne
3. Tyson Fury
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bryant Jennings

 

He was top 5 in 2014, gave Wlad his toughest fight since Sam Peter I, and got demoted to 8 after Ortiz demolished him in 2015. Sor your ass down.

 

And he was 8 in 2015 after Ortiz beat his ass.

 

This link doesn't seem to be working.

Regardless, I really can't see how you would score more than four rounds for Wilder.

 

Ortiz is a fraudulent false alarm with a resume so shallow it's transparent!

 

And that's being generous! I made it 96-91!