Your unpopular boxing opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Mar 8, 2019.


  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was nothing in the magic bottle that enabled
    Pryor to beat Arguello. Medical science actually
    proves this when one considers no stimulant introduced
    through the digestive system (The mouth is considered part of that system) would have any effect in
    the time left in that fight.
     
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  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Is there a source on this, by any chance?
     
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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plenty, ask you're Dr. Research on almost any medical website.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He’s full of ****.
     
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  5. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Prime Folley, Williams and Machen would give peak Ali the fight of his life
     
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  6. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Achievements mean FA - Literally!

    when fighters A, B or C got all the Chances Needed to do so, or worse were protected & manipulated into position, while fighters D, E and F got 'very few' chances or None at All!

    there ARE Far More Charley Burley's than there is Champs.

    i.e, who cares if a Fury is World Champ in 25 fights, in arguably the poorest Era & poorest Division of that era.

    I'll pick a Burley or Lloyd Marshall over ALL the Fury types champs all day long.

    Longevity, Opposition, OPPORTUNITY and Proven Success among the TOP, win or close losses, is all that matters and determines Great Fighters, and again, there are Hundreds of them!!!
     
  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe....... But maybe you're an idiot.....
     
  8. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way, no how!
     
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  9. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Maybe these are not that unpopular but not popular too.

    1-Robinson is "highly" overrated at middleweight. He is in top 5.
    2-Fury beats all HWs in the history by decision.
    3-Prime Roy Jones Jr. is overrated.
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know any knowledgeable boxing person or scribe who subscribes to this notion. Two big wins against Wilder....that's it. So yeah, very unpopular opinion.

    However, no offense, judging by your avatar you're a big fan of Fury and I respect that completely.
     
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  11. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson is third in my book behind Hagler & Greb
     
  12. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Bernardo Mercado and Jeff Sims are top 20 hardest HW punchers
     
  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Most unpopular opinions?

    Pretty much all of mine, though they are heavily suppressed. I simply fall in with popular opinion to garner more likes and acceptance. I’m very needy. Call me the Sally Fields of boxing forums.

    Now that I have lured you all into a false sense of security……I do believe that the perception of Earnie Shavers’ singularly elite, single shot power is an example of overrating to a certain degree though Earnie was still up there with the biggest hitters.

    Popular opinions can have valid basis and in fact be totally sound but can also gain unrealistic proportions (snowball) over time because people jump on to the preceding and pervading opinion without applying their own, individual, due analysis.

    And let’s face it, at any point when a so called popular opinion is challenged (even if duly so), one has to be prepared for a possible and sometimes indignant automatic shout down from the opposing corners. With that, a lot of people’s true opinions don’t see the light of day and the popular opinion rolls on, unabated.

    I hope it was clear that I was joking in the opening paragraph. All opinions that I have expressed have been genuine, for better or worse, more often the latter. LOL.

    Is it necessarily unpopular to say that Norton clearly beat Ali in their rubber match? Or has that become one of the more popular unpopular opinions, which one isn’t really sticking their neck out on? Like a cult movie that has gained more appreciation and increasing traction over time and not so rebellious to later put your hand up for?

    How about the brawl in Montreal? The victory was primarily due to Duran and the intense pressure Ray was forced to fight under. However I do think, and some might argue no, that Ray, in some measure made his own election to stand and slug it out, for the sake of macho and proving himself in that regard, and he certainly did prove himself.

    One of those fights in which a fighter still gains the max. possible credit in defeat. At least for me, by the finish of that fight, Ray’s stocks grew.

    Until then Ray was thought more as a pretty boy and media creation in part while Roberto was viewed as the established real McCoy and as macho as it gets. Sans pride, is it possibe that Ray could’ve made it a bit easier on himself first time around, boxing like he did for the rematch? Hard to gage since Roberto wasn’t as good as the first fight and when he waved himself out of the fight Ray wasn’t exactly miles ahead but still heading in the right direction for a UD.
     
  14. Rafaman

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    I was watching Sugar Ray training the other day in his prime. Absolute freak with no real weaknesses. He could fight any 147 legendary fighter and win on any day. That’s a fair argument.
     
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  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    2.5 years later and I disagree with all of these except for the Sullivan vs Wilder one, though I think I only slightly exaggerated on the Marciano vs Ali one