Wilder Vs Lyle - Who's Last Man Standing?

I agree with this, Wilder makes Shavers look like a ring technician by comparison. And I did see Lyle get off the canvas and win against Earnie and Lyle did come off the mat to drop Foreman .

 

It's a toss of coin, though I lean towards Wilder, due to his speed advantage

 

Wilder hits way harder than Shavers

 

Shavers put his gloves over his face and walked in. Took so many shots he went blind. Threw looping right hands that he prayed landed.

And you saw Lyle get off the canvas to win against Shavers because they gave Lyle two minutes to recover between rounds - which isn't on the film of the fight. But Earnie complained to the Colorado Athletic Commission and was quoted in the Denver Post the following day. But asking the Colorado commission to turn over a verdict in a Ron Lyle fight in 1975 was like filing a complaint with Lyle's mom.

Wilder drops Lyle in the second and it's over.

You guys act like it's easy to look good against Tyson Fury these days. Fury is nearly seven feet tall, nearly 300 pounds, and one of the best heavyweight boxers of this generation.

Fury didn't put his gloves over his face and lay on the ropes like Ali against Lyle and invite Wilder to hit him for 10 rounds. Then basically end the fight against Wilder with one hard right, like Ali did to Lyle.

No puts their gloves over their face and invites Wilder to punch them for a half hour. No one.

 

Decent top 5 contender who was active and faced the best of his era. Nothing special, but quite a challenge for someone like Wilder.

Nothing special - his wins over Bonavena, Ellis, Shavers and Bugner are not spectacular. Are they worse than Wilder's top wins though?

It's within your own imagination that I rank Lyle highly. He's nothing special in historical sense, but he's good enough to consider his chances against Wilder.

Comparing Wilder to 1970s champions is dishonest. Wilder's fights with Fury proved that he was never a true champion of the world.

I wouldn't and I would bet on Wilder. I just make fun of you, because you tried hard to turn Wilder into something he simply has never been.

 

LOL.
nice one.

 

See, you don't even think Lyle wins.

I never tried to turn Wilder into anything. He was the WBC heavyweight champion for five years, made 10 successful title defenses, including one successful defense over the current world champion. How many champs made none? Or one?

Maybe people got jaded because the Klitschkos were such long-reigning champs. People got used to it. But 10 successful defenses is nothing to dismiss with a wave of the hand.

I've just tried to provide a counter-balance to the ridiculous nonsense posted about the guy over the years.

Posting facts about him made me some 'fanboy' ... because there were so many lies posted about him.

Wilder is an excellent heavyweight. Always in shape. Always exciting. No one has a bigger heart.

He hasn't outweighed an opponent in nine years. (When has that EVER happened when talking about a heavyweight champ?) And despite being outweighed, he knocked out everyone he's fought but the reigning World Champ - who is the LARGEST WORLD/Lineal heayvweight champion in boxing history - who Wilder also floored FOUR TIMES in three fights.

He came back from a broken hand and a torn bicep to stop Arreola in a defense. Who wins title fights with a torn bicep AND A broke hand in the same fight? How many champs have we seen just quit with really no injuries that required surgery at all? (How many surgeries did Joshua have after spitting out his mouthpiece and quitting against Ruiz?) Instead of praising Wilder, they ripped his choice of opponent (because his original opponent Povetkin failed his drug test). And then everyone here said Arreola sucked for years ... until Arreola nearly caved in Andy Ruiz's head.

Wilder has only lost to the absolute best heavyweight alive today. He knocked out everyone else. He's no easy out for anyone.

Ron Lyle was a decent contender for a while. I rooted for him back then. The Ali-Lyle fight was the first boxing match I remember watching live.

But Wilder would kill him. Far lesser guys did.

 

I'm not joking. As limited as he is skill wise, Wilder hits way harder than Shavers.

 

I gave you his best wins you moron.

 

You'd bet on Wilder. Said so yourself. **** off.

 

Exactly. Shavers didn't knock out Stan Johnson, Ron Stander (lost to him), Vicente Rondon (light heavy), Bob Stallings (lost to him), Leroy Boone, Tex Cobb (lost to him), Bernardo Mercado (lost to him), Ali Haakim, Quick Tillis (lost to him), Walter Santemore (lost to him), Rahim Muhammad, George Chaplin, Brian Morgan, Brian Yates (lost to him).

Wilder didn't knock out the World Heavyweight Champion Fury, but had him down four times.

 

Wilder would have KOd all of these men

 

Lyle fought better men by far. He was up on points vs. Ali until the fight was halted, Lyle still standing up. Ali could have punched himself out. We'll never know. He also nearly beat Foreman, flooring him in the process. Foreman and Ali Are two all timers on anyone's list in the top ten. Who Wilder fought doesn't rate. Lyle's win over Bugner, Shavers (big puncher), Ellis, And Bonavena definately rate better then the opponents Wilder beat, and I'm being kind

As for how many 6'7 guys did he bet Bugner was no small man, and frankly Wilder at 6'7" tall isn't a talent like the like Wlad or Vitaly.

Garcia and Buster Mathis were contenders too. Lyle beat them. Who many ring ranked contenders did Wilder beat? Very few, and you know it. The 1970's had a lot of talent, the guys Wilder fought, aside for Fury where he is 0-3 on my card did not. Who'd he beat, who? Tell me. Most them weren't ranked and in hindsight those who were shouldn't have been.

 

Ah yes, Lyle 'masterfully outboxing' a bored Muhammad Ali who put his gloves over his face, threw no punches, and asked Lyle to punch away ... until ABC got their allotted commercials in.

The first hard right Ali threw started the end of the fight.

Lyle even lost his tuneup before fighting Ali. Ali considered him a joke. And basically ended the fight when he chose to end it.

And we all how difficult it was to beat the 1974 version of Jimmy Ellis - who was in the midst of the longest losing streak of his career. Ellis didn't beat a guy with a winning record the last five years of a his career -- unless you count the great Bob Feldstein. Bonavena trained by living in a whorehouse, doing drugs and banging the 60-year-old madam of the house.

You guys are just doing name searches now. You don't have a clue.

Bragging Lyle decisioned Ellis would be like me bragging Wilder had to go 10 rounds with Sergei Liakhovich and outpoint him (like Andy Ruiz did). When, instead, Wilder left him flopping and twitching on the floor in the first round.

Wilder beats Lyle. Anything Lynn Ball can do, Wilder can do better.

 

Who said that ?