Tyson Fury could barely land a glove on Wladimir Klitschko? Where exactly was the masterclass?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well he retired, and didn't fight anyone else.

    He might have been lying about depression, cocaine addiction and alcoholism all to avoid making millions against a guy he already beat, I already stated that's possible. But it doesn't seem particularly likely.

    You seem a little overwrought about the whole thing though :lol:
     
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  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was an extremely ugly fight, however:

    He controlled the ring (ring generalship)
    He outlanded Wlad
    He completely shut down Wlad's offense
    His footwork showed to be superior to Wlad's

    He made Wlad look like the up and coming boxer who wasn't ready for the grizzled vet, no one in Wlad's rejuvenated career (or pre) has ever done that to Wlad. And he ran the scorecards up............in Germany.
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yh, he retired, didn't fight anyone else but also conveniently returned the moment Wladimir Klitschko retired. Your point would have more merit if he remained retired but not so much when he conveniently chose to return after the guy who he was obliged to rematch if he remained unretired, left the sport of boxing.

    And Fury winning once is kind of irrelevant to the fact that he ducked the rematch. Do you really want me to list examples of boxers losing the first fight and then turning it around in spectacular fashion in the rematch? Who's to say that wouldn't have happened, if Fury not so cowardly ducked the rematch?

    Maybe Fury was depressed and truly as bad as he claimed he was, but you've not proven it's more likely he is saiying the truth and less likely that he is lying. His words are just that, his words and there's no proof either way. Nobody is obliged to believe a word that comes out of his mouth after he has proven to be a liar enough times already. If anything, I can flip what you said and instead say that since he's already beaten Wladimir Klitschko in what has been his best win of his career, earning millions and supposedly going to the top of the division, he has zero reasons to be depressed and much more reasons to be more motivated to indisputably prove he is better than Wladimir Klitschko and prove the first win wasn't just a fluke. So it's more likely Fury retired to duck Wlad out of no confidence of being able to win again, than due to what he says he retired for. He had no issues giving Wilder 3 fights but somehow depressed to give Wladimir Klitschko only one fight when he barely suffered any damage from the first? LMFAO!
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: Jesus Christ
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At best, Fury outlanded Wlad by only one or two punches in only a few rounds. That's about it! Fury's footwork was not superior, otherwise, he would not be missing wildly lunging in with the longer reach and still barely being able to land any clean punches on the shorter boxer. It was embarrassing just how inaccurate Fury was and how often he was missing.
     
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  6. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Fury outpointed Wlad. But neither landed That much. Klitschko should have tried to knock Fury out. Yes his timing was off but he could have gave his best to go for it. Thats what I dislike the most about Wladimir. Even Wilder managed to hurt Fury because he went for it.
     
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  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't argue against that!
     
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  8. Brumsongs

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    Actually Fury's mental health problems were known well before the Klitschko fight. Fury eventually being honest about this was a brave thing to do, especially given his community background. Have a listen to what his brother Shane had to say about it if you doubt that- zero sympathy. We get it, you can't stand him. From most people's perspective he outboxed one champ, outbrawled another and raised awareness of an issue which is the number one cause of death amongst young men. Seems a pretty good record of achievement by 33 to me.
     
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  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As I said, Fury is not the first nor the last boxer to have such problems. Just because other boxers who don't duck fights and are more professional than this fraud Fury and don't publicize their problems don't mean they aren't also suffering. Mental health problems ain't somehow a pass to escape your obligations in your profession, plain and simple! He was obligated a rematch on the contract and he ducked, and there's 0 excuses to justify this.

    This is bad for the sport and unprofessional. Any boxer could just turn around and say "I was depressed" without solid proof to somehow back out of a rematch. Fury is not some saint to get a pass or be an exception, period.
     
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  10. gmurphy

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    Bum talk from esbs resident dosser
     
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  11. Surrix

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    Nope.
    Sanders I think had more impressive win vs Wlad than anyone else.
    Wlad then was 26 and 6-0 in World Title fights with WBO World title on line AND this was win via stoppage.

    Yes.

    Cos this even more strange why Fury didn't had rematched vs Wlad.
    Wlad had been 40 y. 2- 4 months, maybe 40 yers 6 months old in their rematch.
    If this had happened.
    Fury had get considerably more for rematch than for first fight and this vs even more old rich Wlad!
    If he had won rematch, he might turned into big figure, why not?
    Btw I think that more motivated Fury, if had trained like mad 6 months in row after 1 st fight vs old Wlad, had won rematch vs old Wlad via decision.

    Wlad looked not " hungry " even before Pulev fight, not alone Fury fight.
    He already was rich businessman, ofc over the hill and looked lazy.
     
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  12. Brumsongs

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    You don't know what you're talking about.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It was similar to Jones v Toney, Jones didn`t land much in that fight either but still out-classed Toney with ease same as Fury did v Wlad.
     
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  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury beat Wlad in 2011 without even having to box him

    Sauna King

    bow down

    Do you know what it takes for someone to step in the ring with Wlad and make it look like a day out in the park?

    Respect it.
     
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  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was very one sided. Was very exiting can Wlad turn it around and in the end if judges are bold enough to rob him.
    Great performance from Fury
     
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