Tyson Fury could barely land a glove on Wladimir Klitschko? Where exactly was the masterclass?

Fury should be glad that rematch never happened.

 

fury won wide in a boring boxing match. Just because it wasnt entertaining doesnt mean much

 

Could be, but Wlad figured something out if he started to land in 12th.
Maybe that's why Fury retired. He saw that Wlad found a way to land his punches.

 

That 12th was why he put on 120lb and gave his septum a daily bump.

 

Fury self destructed but its foul Wlad didnt get his rematch vs him. That does take something away for me to put Fury over Wlad for sure h2h.
I wish it did happen.
Imagine Ruiz retiring after beating AJ. Wlad might have did what Fury did to Wilder in the second. Would have been a more fun fight.

I always felt Wlad might come back to beat Foremans record. If he does Fury owes him a shot imo. Chances are way slimmer now of course but still.

 

I have often called this fight a farce. A disgrace and a shitstain on the undies of what was once the Most Grand Title In The World. They did the Heavyweight Championship no favors. Both men should be ashamed. Both showed absolutely no courage that night along with a lack of respect for their fans who secure them from having to work for a living.

 

I thought he retired (unofficially) due to the Boar meat scandal?

 

I find it funny that so many people convince themselves of the idea that Wlad forgot boxers are supposed to throw punches, and that if someone had reminded him of this often overlooked element to a boxers game, he would have won without a doubt.

I also find it funny that Wlads personal life is often brought up as a reason for why he had limited success against Fury...yet some of the same posters that will mention this will comment on Fury looking poor against Wilder in the 3rd fight despite the **** he was going through with his daughter.

Is there any chance whatsoever that Wlad struggled because he was finally fighting someone who was not only his own size....but taller than him? Someone he couldn't jab and grab against? Maybe he was thrown off by the fact he was fighting the most awkward fighter he had encountered? Of course not.

Fact of the matter is, it was a boring ass fight, but still a fight where a challenger went into a long reigning champs backyard and left with his belts. It deserves some respect.

 

No, that'd be the opinion of someone who DKSAB. Beating big names isn't all that's necessary to see improvement in someone. It's actually a smaller factor than seeing the person actually box, whoever it is against (within reason) if you think there hasn't been improvement in Fury from Wlad, to now then you just don't know what you're watching or, are a hater, I won't insult you by saying it's the former, so maybe it's the latter? Whether you rate Wilder or not, he's a genuine threat to the whole division and would be against almost anyone who has fought in it. Thoroughly beatable, but always a danger. The way Fury controls the ring now before even getting into anything more technical is a clear improvement on his pre-absence fights, where it was generally very good anyway, it's now better without question. His ability to switch up styles since the move to SugarHill is an undoubted improvement too. He had to slug it in fights before, McDermott, Cunningham, Chisora to an extent, he roughed up too....but the second and third fights against Wilder he did that so much more convincingly. It's common sense, the more you train for something the better you get, fighters mature and improve, especially great ones, like Fury. When he gets tagged or it gets difficult, Tyson Fury improves, his greatest trick in a box full of them.

As for the "claiming depression" comment, what a sad outlook that is, even with all the evidence in front of you, the guy was near 30 stone, lost his voice and an obvious alcoholic, drug addict. Surely you can't be accusing him of lying about it? If so then you're part of the stigma and I hope noone ever decides to approach you with such thoughts or feelings. I'd suggest you go back and watch the "The Gloves Are Off" feature with him and Klitschko before the would be second fight. It's a half hour cry for help in hindsight, which noone saw at the time. I came across it again recently and it does hit home really, knowing what he was actually feeling now. He genuinely didn't care about the fight or being alive. Said as much on national TV, you can see towards the end that even Klitschko's face dropped as he started to realise what was happening.

The fact that Wlad is suddenly ancient Wlad who knocked out bums and had a poor performance one fight before (yet took Joshua to the well next time out, years later) just because Fury did a job on him leaves it in no doubt where you're coming from here, you just hate Fury and won't have a good word said about him, which is absolutely pathetic for what I'll assume, is a grown man (?) Based on the fact you're posting on a forum.

Fury the coward who got up from the brink of death and more recently from a punch which knocks every other fighter in the world out...yes, that coward? Get a grip man. Hating on people who are better than you in every way rather than being inspired by them is such a sad outlook to have and I hope something changes in you one day.

As for Wlad in Germany, maybe you're younger than I thought or just don't really follow the division so closely?
He fought the majority of his career out of Germany, has and still does live a large portion of his life in Hamburg and has an undeniable affinity with the country and its people, who generally adore/adored him. All over their TV shows and commercials, the lot.
As such that night was a hostile away crowd for Fury against pretty much, the home fighter who had huge influence in that country, being based out of there.

To try paint it any other way is simply ludicrous and a mark of what it is you're trying to do here. Fury went into the lions den and came away with the belts and it makes you very mad. When he beats AJ, no doubt it'll be AJ is just a bum who lost to fat Ruiz anyway. Laughable

 

Was no moment in that fight where you would think that Klitchko was winning it if you would know its neutral card.
Yes he missed most of his own punches in punch stats but so does every boxer in world class fight.
Also not every punch is realy desing to hit anything else than guard few jabs to guar and then comes the real punch

 

@Luis Fernando

I dont want to be a smarta...but please read my post again from page 1.

I am German and i know much about K2 sine the Klitschkos fought here most of their career.

Dont you get it or dont you want to get it what Fury did under those K2 condition was special?

Herold Lederman hat him winning the fight 9-3 rounds, he only gave Wlad the rounds 1, 9 and 12.

Those british dude from Sky (i forgot his name) was very blind to score it almost as a draw. I dont know what he was watching.


So or so:
Even these high caliber british boxing experts, like this legendary Colin Hart, didnt recognize this fake K2 BS, same has the former Boxing Champ Jim Watts. I recognized it when he commented the Wlad-Haye fight on Sky.

I dont konw why they didnt see it...but anyone who knows the Marques of Queensburry rules should see K2 had its own rules, founded by the Klitschko brothers and their manager Bernd Boente.

I dont understand why such guys like Hart and Watts never saw or recognized this K2 stuff...they must have spotted something was wrong. But if they did, they never made any comments about.

 

Murdered in a Sauna 4 years prior after refusing to spar a man he brought into his own camp and tried to intimidate by staring him out, Fury asked him if he had a problem and he sulked away
Unbeaten in how many years
A man with a broken toe was his best opponent during his prime. a man who ducked Fury twice.
Clowned by batman in the pressers
Taken apart verbally in face to face
Paid off ref
Tried to rig the canvas heavily
Didn't want to approve fury's gloves
Wearing high heels to try to intimidate Fury at the weigh in which Fury mocked before round 1 begun
rigged weigh in scale to make Fury look lighter
Round 1 ends "Let's go champ" Fury shouts to Wlad as Wlad mopes back to his corner
Headbutted Fury when Grabimir got manhandled in his own clinch.
Fury mocked his telegraphed loaded up punches which he failed to land all night long
Lost every round excluding maybe 1. Claimed he did great in the last round a round despite being heavily ahead on scorecards Fury chose to walk at him. Fury actually won that round by my books, threw 10 punches before Wlad even threw 1.
Fury dominates and sings afterwards


Great fight and build up.

Boring to your average joe who doesn't have the context and misses the many many subtleties of which I've highlighted.

 

You forgot a point being deducted from Fury cos a punch tapped the back of Wlads head as he was turning away from combat.

Fury was up against the same house referring as Ried was against Ottke. .

 

Sadly no.
Worst officiating in the world might be in U.K, Grozny, Zaire.