How Long Does Wilder Last, As An 80 's Belt Holder?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Would He Make The Sunshine, Sprinkle It With Dew? The Candy Man Can. You did mention Gene Wilder.
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    An interesting way to look for a fighter with the X factor, whatever it is.
     
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    Did you see how fast his hands were in blazing saddles!
     
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    So what would be Ali chance against Wilder if that's true?
     
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    He would have been too fast for Cleveland Big Cat Williams, Lol.
     
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    Wilder will always struggle against a well-schooled Heavyweight, who shows up in condition and with a will to win.

    Contrary to some of the more negative [internet forum] perceptions of the '80s heavyweight boxing scene, these types of Heavyweight Contenders and Title-holders did exist, back then.
     
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    haha

    Wilder would KO Witherspoon in quick fashion.
     
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    Are you listening Champ, you have one critique. Let us know how you would have made out and why?
     
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    :lol:
     
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    How many world class guys has Wilder knocked out early?

    What about looking at how they’d have matched up stylistically?
     
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    Naa. That is not happening.
    How many actually did Ko Tim?
     
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    I'm not backing off of anything.

    Thomas was stopped fairly early on 4 separate occasions, and two of the opponents who took him out aren't even particularly hard punchers.

    Wilder is a devastating hitter, easily top 5 of all time.

    Thomas had never "easily" outjabbed a man who had significant height and reach over him, unless you'd care to point out when this happened? On the contrary, Wilder did in fact outjab a man Thomas height and he did it easily.

    Usyk and Joshua have nothing to do with this discussion. Usyk is not Thomas. We have evidence of Usyk outjabbing a taller man. That's a completely separate discussion.

    I'm the only one using logic.
     
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    What in the flying **** does usyk have to do with Thomas vs Wilder? Is Usyk the Ukrainian clone of Thomas with the exact same talent and experience? Did Thomas ever outjab a man the height of Joshua or Wilder??? Yes or no? And part of the requirement is that he does so "easily", I'm not not letting that part of the hook..
     
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    Ali wins but he probably doesn't "easily" outjab a man with a 5' reach advantage barely getting hit once and dominates for 5 rounds straight.

    And Thomas is not Ali. They do not fight even remotely similar. Ali had superb footwork and darted in and out with Sharp counters, foot work, and head movement. Thomas was a fairly straight up boxer puncher with a heavy jab and fought on the front foot. Literally the only things they have in common are being 6'3 and wearing boxing gloves.

    Can we move on from the false comparisons? This is almost as bad as people claiming Dempsey could beat Vitali based on what Chris Byrd did.