Who Else Puts Patterson Out In 1?

We are talking about stopping him in one round here, not just beating him!

 

If we are talking lineal, I'll throw a darkhorse here, maybe Briggs does it. He has a ton of first round KOs and starts fast. I'm not saying Briggs is better than Patterson, just that there's a chance.

 

I forget how many times Floyd got knocked down, although I had a count at one time. More than 20 I think.

So basically anyone — Pete Rademacher put him down in the first and could have stopped him in the first if he landed the right follow-up punch. And he was an amateur.

 

There is a world of difference, between putting somebody down, and taking them out.

 

Frank Bruno

 

Yes but taking someone out usually involves putting them down.

Fact is we know Floyd’s chin was made of glass. So it’s entirely possible that dozens upon dozens of heavyweights had what it took to get the job done. If an amateur can put you down, stands to reason that there are pros who could keep you there.

If he fought Sonny a dozen times, I think Sonny stops him in one every single time. There’s no evidence to the contrary. I don’t think Sonny is the only boxer in history to possess this ability. All those knockdowns tend to support the idea that it could be done.

 

It is a lot more complex than that in practice.

A fighter tailors their chin to their opponent.

If they know that they are in against a banger, then they don't take chances, and they are constantly braced for the big sot.

If they know that they are in against a light hitting technician, then they take more risks, and they have to quite frankly.

Jimmy Braddock dropped Joe Louis, but he absorbed Max Baer's best shots.

Henry Cooper dropped Muhammad Ali, but he absorbed George Foreman's best shots.

USS Cunningham dropped Tyson Fury, but he absorbed Deontay Wilder's best shots.

You get the general idea!

 

Well Floyd should have “tailored his chin” for Sonny … and Ingo … and, well, you get the general idea.

There’s no one apart from Sonny who we can be sure would take Floyd out in one. But Patterson’s general pattern of finding himself decked lends to the idea that many could do it.

It doesn’t take an extra-special ability to knock a man out in one. Some attrition fighters only win by stoppage generally by wearing their opponent down, but punches can land the big one in any round and if they’re fighting a guy who doesn’t have a lot of punch resistance then they obviously could do so in the first … or the second, the third, etc.

I mean I don’t think Mike Tyson was incapable of knocking Frank Bruno out in the first round just because Bruno lasted a bit longer twice. It’s a roll of the dice, and in tons of mythical matchups with Floyd it would be a matter of when, not if.

 

He did tailor his chin for Ingo, in the rematches.

Perhaps you are thinking along the wrong lines.

If you evaluate a fighter based on how many times they were decked, you are basically punishing them for beating the count.

They could have avoided most of those knockdowns, by staying down, and getting counted out.

Only two lineal champions, in the history of the sport, have ever been stopped in one round.

Only two challengers have ever done it.

 

Larry could do a job on Floyd early on as he did with the smallish Marvis Frazier.

Floyd was not known for his durability and Larry has one of the best right hands in history

Likewise with Cooney & Tyson

I see Floyd freezing up and getting in early trouble as his larger opponents do a Liston like job on him

 

Oh Patterson there was a time where you had the respect of the president and now people are picking Briggs and Bruno against you in one no round less... Forgive us!

 

Interesting no one has mentioned Joe Louis who had a good track record for 1 round KOs.

 

I hear you, but every heavyweight champion has strengths and weaknesses. Floyd was one of the least durable out of the lot. There's always somebody who has to be the worst at something out of a pool of guys, and Floyd's particular weakness was the kind that makes him vulnerable to punchers.

 

I would say, not as many as people here are listing. Floyd Patterson was an exceptionally good fighter and so was the man who stopped him in one. Yes there are probably some other guys who would prevent him from seeing the first bell, but the list isn’t that long

 

He survived the theoretical GOAT twice and stopped him in both bouts.

Cut him some slack Ingo hit harder then anyone... probably.

But seriously he survived Quarry with the right plan and Oscar as well as Chuvalo there are punchers he could beat like say Briggs...