Fury and Usyk ATG Ranking?

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  1. Omega74

    Omega74 Member Full Member

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    Lets just assume Fury beats Whyte and Usyk beats AJ in the rematch, and the undisputed fight gets made. How would Fury/Usyk rank as an ATG, if one of them wins the Undisputed fight? I think for Tyson Fury you could make a case that he is a lock for the top 13 imo. Usyk is a bit tricky to rank, because he would only have 5 fights at HW by that time (but he would still have a great resume). What do you guys think?
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    ATG should be left for when they retire imo.

    Just appreciate them whilst their here.
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I think this can only be evaluated once their careers are over. The assumptions are big ones because it’s not guaranteed Usyk wins the rematch and Whyte will have something to say about his match up against Fury.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury & Usyk are special & complete fighters
     
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  5. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    As p4p Usyk should be far higher. Because he has also CW history.

    As HW Fury will be higher everytime, everywhere.
     
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  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Usyks win over AJ is better than Fury’s win over Wilder. Usyk ranks higher in both divisions
     
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  7. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Yes because Fury did never beat Chisorax2, Klitschko, Wilderx3 and Wallin. Usyk should be higher cause he beat bodybuilder. You should be genius.
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Because he beat someone with the best resume in the division. Also Usyk beat Chisora. Stop overrating Fury’s resume
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Usyk is 1-0 versus ranked guys. So if he retired tomorrow, nowhere, unless you want to do some mad head to head thing.

    Fury is much more complex and difficult. He is short on contenders but has a pair of generational type wins. Two wins like that are actually very rare (though in part it's a judgement on the era).

    If he retired, can't imagine Fury outside the top thirty.
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Usyk does not

    Fury also ended Klitschko's reign and comfortably outboxed the guy. Fury's win over Klitschko is better than anything on Joshua's resume because Joshua's best win is a beltless 2 year inactive older Klitschko who had lost to Fury, although Joshua's win over Klitschko is still a better win than Fury's wins over Wilder because Wilder is overrated.

    Fury's resume is Klitschko, Wilder, prime Chisora 2x

    Usyks heavyweight resume is past it Chisora and Joshua

    Pfp Usyk ranks far higher but at this point Fury's resume at heavyweight is better. But i think Usyk could beat Fury
     
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  11. Ilesey

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    Too early to judge, let their careers play out - time will tell.
     
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  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    both couldnt box an egg.
     
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  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Their careers have not even ended yet:lol:

    Let Usyk and Fury get some more wins.
     
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  14. drenlou

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    Usyk is greater than Fury right now.
     
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  15. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    If you think about it Markus, the Older Wlad youre referring to actually looked like A younger Wlad how he was supposed to fight Against Fury. Wlad took more risk in his fight against AJ which was why the fight is easy on the eyes! If Wlad would have pulled the trigger against Fury, im not sure we would be having this conversation.
     
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