Responding to people saying Dillian Whyte "doesn't deserve" a shot.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vegan Beast, Oct 28, 2021.


  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    People seem to forget that Whyte was mandatory before Povetkin, he didn't earn a shot through beating Pov, he was a mandatory before fighting him, and this is why he had a rematch clause in place.

    And we all know 8/10 Whyte would have beaten Povetkin, Povetkin didn't get lucky, he timed a great shot, but he was being dominated before hand by Whyte. It wasn't a close fight.

    I'm a Pov fan btw, one of my all time favourite boxers, but the guy was being ***** slapped, and fair play, whatever quality that remained came through and he landed one of the best boxing punches I've seen in a while. But this would not have happened most nights. Prime Povetkin obliterates Whyte, but this wasn't prime Pov.

    But to further add to my argument, look here -

    Look at everyone else in the WBC rankings -

    Whyte (mandatory)
    Wilder
    Ruiz
    Joyce
    Ortiz
    Parker

    Who deserves a shot more than Whyte here?

    Wilder? Obviously not, unless you think there should be a 4th fight.
    Ruiz? Done **** all since losing to AJ's jab, besides beating ***** tits Arreola who knocked him down.
    Joyce? - Already a mandatory elsewhere, and best ****ing win was Takam. Non-comparable resume to Whyte.
    Ortiz? - Done nothing since 2019 but KO a nobody who was there to lose. He almost didn't get paid over match fixing suspicions.
    Parker? - Done nothing for over 3 years besides get a lucky SD over Chisora who many believe was robbed me included.

    If anyone deserves a shot here, it's Whyte. He's been treat like **** by the WBC.
     
  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Let him have it

    Be good to get rid of him
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not again... I thought a line had been drawn under this, and pretty much people were at peace with Fury v Whyte.
    Not the case?
     
  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes he absolutely deserves it after all this time. I dislike that he appears to have sidestepped Wallin (after signing to fight him FFS) and the fact he got to drag Povetkin back into a rematch in a fight which was an eliminator leaves a sour taste in my mouth, but boxing's had a ton of less deserving challengers over the years so when everything's weighed up it's really not crime of the century if he gets a shot.

    He'll make a good fight of it against Fury, and I suspect will do a lot better than many people think. The irrational dislike/hatred of Whyte is clouding a lot of people's judgements and souring them on what's likely to be a pretty good fight.
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Many people still don't think so because of what happened with Povetkin.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't consider him a hot commodity but hell I wasn't even talking down Leapai's shot since he pulled an upset to get it. So, sure as hell am not going to talk Whyte's shot down, all things considered.
     
  7. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm honestly starting think this place is one of the last bastions of anti-Whyte sentiment. And even then I doubt this thread is going to take off. Even the Youtube comments sections are on board with Whyte v Fury, and that includes the LDBC.
     
  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    He deserves a shot.
    He doesn't deserve to be "mandatory", but then again most mandatories don't deserve it.
     
  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have no problem with Whyte getting a shot but can we not forget a couple of things..

    Whyte refused a WBC final eliminator against Luis Ortiz, Ortiz went on to fight Wilder.

    Whyte also refused an opportunity to fight AJ for 3 major belts because he wanted more money


    So Whyte has had opportunities to fight for world titles, let's not pretend he has been completely frozen out and he is some kind of hard done by victim of boxing politics.
     
  10. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hahaha you joker. It wasn't a final eliminator.

    Okay, @Vegan Beast , I was wrong, you were right. There are still those pushing this
     
  11. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wasn't? Really? What was it then?
     
  12. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Whyte got KO'd at home by a shot 41 year old Povetkin so he should go to the back of the que. His wins over Chisora x2 and Parker required the favour of officials and Rivas could have easily been an NC. His best non-controversial wins are Helenius, Wach and Allen, 0 KO's, 0 KD's. He's since cheated and ducked Fury opponent Wallin; a fighter he no doubt derided as a bum back in 2019. He turned down various eliminators and a title shot against AJ in 2019; he's been given chances but hasn't taken them.

    Ruiz smashed title holder AJ in 7 rather than getting smashed by prospect AJ in 7 and Whyte recently called out an even older and more worn version of Arreola than the one Ruiz beat in his last fight, so I'd argue Ruiz should have priority over Whyte. Joyce has beaten Jennings, Dubois and Takam with 2 KO's: better wins than Whyte's best three and he's undefeated. Sanchez and Hunter are also credible opponents. They should all be offered a shot before Whyte.
     
  13. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was to be the second mandatory after Breazeale. But when pushed the WBC wouldn't guarantee a shot at the title if Whyte won. Therefore it's an eliminator.
    Whyte had already won an eliminator in 2016. So why would he sign for another eliminator?
    The actual final eliminator they should have been ordered was between Breazeale and Whyte:
    Chisora v Whyte (2016) = eliminator
    Breazeale v Molina (2017) = eliminator
    therefore...
    but the WBC reneged on this
     
  14. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    "Whyte refused a WBC final eliminator with Ortiz" - This is only one half of the story though. Whyte claims that Ortiz refused offers to fight him, so it sounds more like they couldn't agree terms, so there's reason to believe Ortiz was partially to blame for this.

    Who you believe is up to you, but I don't see enough proof whyte was solely to blame for this.

    I don't dispute, though, that he refused an AJ fight, but this is for the WBC belt though, and I don't think he refusing a unified match with AJ makes it so he doesn't deserve his WBC opportunity.

    Whyte was shut out IMO because he had to wait so long at times as the number 1 content and/or mandatory challenger, and was conveniently swept aside at times due to convenient drugs tests but then cleared later.

    I think his claim is as strong as anyone elses, probs more so. Let him and Fury fight, it will be a good occasion, and hopefully it will be the end of Whyte's moaning.
     
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  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Whyte and Matchroom have made a lot of PPV money while he's been 'waiting' for a shot at a world title. To be fair, he's fought some decent opponents and given us some good fights marketed along the lines of 'Even though he's in line for a shot at the title he'll still take on anyone'.

    When he steps into the ring with a world champion (probably Fury) we'll see that the delay worked financially for both him and his promoter...