Yeah you knew it was coming. Where do you rankTyson Fury in h2h?

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what I don't get the most. Ortiz is relatively skilled puncher, but he's also slow, he didn't have high workrate, his defense wasn't anything special and his power is overrated as hell.

    I can understand why people overrate fighters who look good on the tape, but Ortiz? He's nobody in historical sense.
     
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    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I remember it, while Jennings had a style and intent to disrupt Wlad a bit, as well as have a few moments of success (which highlighted how formularized Wlad had become over the years) I thought Wlad looked better than Ortiz in beating him. Ironically, it was Ortiz having the run of things on the inside against Jennings, which led to the latter's demise. Had Wlad possessed just a modicum of an inside game, he'd have most likely dispatched Jennings in short order.

    The stoppage wins for Ortiz and Rivas look better on paper but, save for that fact, I didn't think they were separating themselves from Jennings in any big way. Jennings was Joyce's tenth pro outing and I think the first time he had gone 12 rounds. I'm not all that concerned if it looked a modest performance.

    All in all, you can bundle Ortiz in with Jennings, Szpilka, Perez, Rivas. There's not a massive gap between any of them, in my opinion.
     
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  3. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fighting Fury must be very physically exhausting if a man that is 6-7 is having problems. I think a young Ali could do and perhaps Larry Holmes but not Mike Tyson. Forget Frazier and Marciano
     
  4. Naseem Muhammed

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    I thought Joe Louis had 48 fights against top rated men?
     
  5. janitor

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    I think that I am right in saying 31 who were in the top ten when the fight happened, and 51 who had been in the top ten at some point.

    If I am not, then it is as near as damn it!
     
  6. Naseem Muhammed

    Naseem Muhammed Member Full Member

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    Ah I see.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is unbeatable
     
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    One observation.

    If Tyson Fury had never been born, and a novelist had proposed him as a fictional champion/contender, I would have dismissed him as being implausible!
     
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  9. Naseem Muhammed

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    How good ya think fury is?
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unbeatable, indestructible, iron chin, iron will, strong as a gorilla, fast as Amir Khan, hits harder than Wladimir Klitschko, infighting like Riddick Bowe, head movement of Muhammad Ali, Boxing iq of 400.

    Nobody beats Fury
     
  11. African Cobra

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    Pure stupidity.
     
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  12. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    AJ rematching Usyk straight away?

    yeah.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    If AJ wins I look forward to seeing what you say then.
     
  14. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Big props + easy work, money and undisputed for Fury. Making his life easy.
     
  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    So let it be written so let it be done.