What weight class would Rocky Marciano fight in in the present era?

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  1. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    He drains down to MW and loses a controversial decision to Canelo, then becomes an award winning actor.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No, I gave you a range for both of them, where the highest estimate for Pac, and the lowest estimate for Marciano almost touched touched.

    That is not even remotely the same thing!
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Yes it is :facepalm:

    When you say Pac could be 9% and Rocky sub 10% you must be held accountable for those words.

    He (Pac) is also nowhere near 5%

    Again my point stands if Rocky was 5% at 175lbs he would be in modern bodybuilding show condition do you still think he is 10%?
     
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  4. janitor

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    I gave plausible ranges for both of them, based on the same evidence.

    A sensible person would take that to mean, that if one was at the lower/higher end of their range, then the other was most likely at the lower/higher end of their range.

    Of course I am not suggesting that Pac was at the highest realistic end of his range, and Marciano was at the lowest plausible end of his range.
     
  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    So what do you think give me a number to work with that you think is most logical instead of hiding behind "I sorta said that" savy?
     
  6. janitor

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    A bodybuilder, is a person who creates a certain appearance on stage, and then practically collapses from dehydration.

    You could practically walk along the line, and shove them all over with one push of your hand!
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know?

    That is my number!
     
  8. Guru88

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    175 and he’d have an absolute tear up with beterbiev
     
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  9. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano was a lean 190 he was no Ltheavy his natural strength and endurance was otherworldly at 190+- at his lightest he was 183. He was a Cruiserweight he wasn't as bulky or waterlogged as modern fighters and he didn't use weights I think with the advances in physical training science and Nutrition he would have been a juggernaut at Cruiser....if he had fought Qwai, Jirov, Toney, Holy field or any of the top cruisers the fights would have been classics
     
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  10. Journeyman92

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    From your own mouth.

    If we go by this my point stands if he was in the low 170lbs you'd have me believe he would be in bodybuilding stage condition?

    If you think Manny Pac was between 5-9 I can tell you that he is at the most 8% on his best night.

    5% Is an onstage bodybuilder does Pac look like that at Welter? The answer is no.

    Now If Pac is 8% do you really believe at the highest possible percent you have given of the Rock at 14% if he dropped 12lbs he would be as lean as Manny Pac? mind you he'd be 173lbs if we take it from his prime weight. Again he fought at 178lbs...
     
  11. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

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    Could you imagine Rocky Marciano on PEDs, great nutrition, modern technology? Jesus christ dude would be unstoppable at 175lbs
     
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  12. Tonto62

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    He could add 35/40lbs with no loss of stamina or speed, and with todays global warming he likely would be over 6 foot at fight night! And don't forget ,he only had to land his Suzie Q once to end the fight.
     
  13. McGrain

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    That's completely unproven.

    The total number of championship calibre fighters that Rocky Marciano knocked out who also weighed over 200lbs was 0.

    The total number of ranked contenders who weighed 200lbs or over that Marciano was able to brutally knock out was 1.

    That this equals, for you, proof that he was capable of knocking out "any 200lb fighter" brutally is indicative i'm afraid.

    You literally might as well say that Oleksander Usyk has proven he could outpoint any superheavyweight who has ever lived. It makes as much sense.
     
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  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    When somebody weighs 198lbs, it is probably OK to describe them as a 200lb fighter for ease of reference.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yeah, but Walcott isn't some granite-chinned wonder, it's hardly fair to take that knockout and perpetrate it against the likes of Oleksander Usyk, Evander Holyfield, and Sam Langford. And it's still an incredibly tiny pool to support your claim.

    It's basically speculation awarding the highest possible praise based upon almost no data.

    That's the worst sort of claim.
     
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