Evander Holyfield vs Joe Louis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, May 19, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Holyfield Decision

    17.4%
  2. Holyfield Knockout

    16.3%
  3. Louis Knockout

    34.9%
  4. Louis Decision

    27.9%
  5. Draw

    3.5%
  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Well, considering they're mostly my alts, and I clearly don't get boxing...you do the math.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Fire away, honestly it won't bother me in the slightest but a poll with a big population isn't really the way nor will it change anything but it'd be hilarious if it backfired on Glass.
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Made it for ya
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I did that
     
  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    For perspective, Prime Holyfield could be reasonably forecast to present as a relatively tough gig for the best Ali also, imo.

    For Louis, it can come down to the basic question as to whether he can he hurt Evander sufficiently to back him off and take it a step further to seriously hurt and KO The Real Deal.

    Louis was faster when he punched but Holyfield was busier. I need the energised, multi applied Louis from the Baer fight. Aside from whiskers, Baer is no Holy of course so it’s not so emphatic a victory but one I can see Louis winning by KO by about Rd 8.

    Though his chin was fine, if hit right by a particularly hard single shot, Evander could be seriously shaken but still ride out the storm. Evander’s overall resilience was comprised by no mean measure of outstanding heart and will.

    I think Joe can def. hit Evander “right” just once and with enough power to shake his foundations and then hit him “right” several more times in quick succession to begin putting in some serious dents with Joe eventually seeing Holy off.

    Also, as great a jab as Louis had, curiously, he didn’t always employ it as frequently as he could’ve, to its best effect. It’s a must that Joe pump the jab hard and often v Holy and of course Joe has to absolutely ensure quick recoil and guard reset otherwise Evander would def. take advantage with right hand counters if Joe left improper windows of opportunity..

    However, if Holy is somehow relatively impervious to Joe’s power (personally, I really don’t think so but such things can sometimes never be really known until they hit the ring) it’s a very tough fight for Joe to win over the full route and just surviving the full distance could present as a very stern challenge also.
     
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  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put Louis in the 90s and he wouldn't even be a contender, that's what I think.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then your arguments for that are...?
     
  8. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Him being not skilled and big enough to make it
     
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's more skilled than 99% of HWs in the 1990s.
     
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  10. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Everyone thinks Holyfield beats every single human being alive on this website forum. He even beats The Hulk.
     
  11. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having text book punch delivery doesnn't make him more skilled. His footwork is very poor and his defense ain't that great either.
     
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  12. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very few think that. We just think he beats the overrated all timers, just as all top dogs from the 90s do.
     
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  13. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    yea I always say that dont I did you see how the legend glass troll had nothing to debunk what i said when i shown him
    Bowe moving better then Louis

    and even gave a breakdown of the stuff missing like I have before but used razor instead in the past

    they never like I said have any proof of anybody moving like those after louis cause it didnt exist

    they know it didnt exist the same as they know joe would lose its obvious he would be destroyed by 70s-90s great boxers
     
  14. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I know holy would I say it as fact he is the top 5 best skilled hw of all time I would say 2nd behind mike this is the 90s holy I mean sense he was a combo of a brawler and outboxer
     
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  15. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    you left out missing alot of upperbody and advanced footwork which you know I showed before I showed the vid of mutiple advances in movement holy had over him and others did to

    but they like to lie saying joe had everything how can he have had everything if he was missing those advances that nobody back then

    if joe was as great skilled as he is talked of like he is here he would be as great as ali skilled or holy

    Louis wouldn't have ever been beat by those trash dudes had he been as skilled as those 2 sense I think everybody knows if those 2 legends was fighting then they would have went undefeated and never had a challenge

    which means sense Louis didnt have that type of skill level means he wasnt as great as he is talked up of

    the person they hype up never existed in louis it's a another person that they like and they put those skillsets and advanced movement on Louis which is odd real odd
     
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