Better fight: Leonard-Hearns 1 or 2?

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Which Leonard-Hearns fight was better?

  1. The first fight

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  2. The second fight

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I was having this conversation in the scorecards thread with @scartissue about whether the first or second fight between Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns was better.

    My contention is that while Leonard-Hearns 1 was a classic matchup with the highest stakes that lived up to its billing, for in-ring action I think Leonard-Hearns 2 had just as many momentum shifts and had better back and forth action in some of the rounds.

    Interested to see what other people think so please vote and leave a comment with your opinion why you voted for one over the other.

    And I might do a few of these kind of threads as I have some others that I'd like to gauge opinion on.
     
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I pick 1 and the main reason is because of the dramatic end.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Absolutely fair enough, Clinton!

    But the second fight had a crescendo finish although it ended with both fighters still on their feet... actually, so did the first fight now I think of it! Hearns only went down in the previous round.
     
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  4. TheWorstEver(TWE)

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    Leonard v Hearns 1 was a good fight with a dramatic come from behind stoppage, but it's overrated for me. Too many rounds with not much happening apart from Hearns jabbing Leonards head off. I always thought the rematch was more entertaining.
     
  5. Jel

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    I agree with you about the second fight. Add your vote!
     
  6. Journeyman92

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    I have to say the first one was more important but I think the second was more entertaining.
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like this. The second one was a case of two veterans past their prime pullling it all out one more time.
     
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  8. Clinton

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    Quite plausible TWE!
     
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  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even though I prefer 1 mainly because of the ending, you all make great points!
     
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  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Somewhat similar to comparing FOTC to Manila I guess.

    As Ali viewed Frazier in Manila, so too did Ray, in respect of Tommy, thinking he’d clean up on apparently shot Hearns. And like Frazier, Hearns lifted in the face of his chief nemesis, refusing to yield, giving Ray the fight of his life.

    I probably prefer the first fight because it was absolute prime Leonard and Hearns, at their best and fastest. Compelling to see the roles reversed, Tommy turning boxer and Ray slugger and seeing Ray trying to work out, rd after rd, how the hell to get inside Hearns’ reach and wreak havoc.

    However, the rematch def. had more see saw moments and drama. I was personally pleased to see Hearns resolve what appeared to be an issue he held in not finishing the first fight.

    Hell, he really won the rematch but Tommy was okay with the draw, more chuffed with proving his mettle, knowing what to do when hurt and ultimately surviving Ray’s later rds onslaught.
     
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  11. Fergy

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    Same here, Clinton. I love the classic comeback from Leonard too, behind on the cards and eye closing fast.
    Saying that, i also love the second fight. By then, they'd both being thru a long journey and at times it looked like they were never going to meet again.
    But they did, and Tommy was seen as the more battered and had lost more of himself.
    So it was great to see him fight Ray like that and almost get the verdict.
    In some ways of course he did, he had the majority of the audience thinking he'd deserved the win.
    Two great fights anyway.
     
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  12. Mark Dunham

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    the first fight was good, not great but Leonard at his prime while Hearns was in development and still a few years away from his.

    I thought the matchup was great

    The rematch came way too late and Tommy looked very broken down, with poor, poor stamina, a damaged chin, and more defeats; both of by tko

    I felt that Tommy was okay after the loss to Hagler but after the loss to Barkley, he was damaged goods with two more close calls

    In addition, it was only a 12 rounder with no legitimate title at stake

    I consider the rematch more of a highly publicized exhibition

    Had it been scheduled for 15, I dont think Tommy would have made it

    The first match was definitely better
     
  13. salsanchezfan

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    Inaccurate description of where Hearns was in his development. He was a dominant welter. To suggest otherwise is just an attempt to cheapen Leonard's victory.

    Which may have been your point, I dunno.
     
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  14. 88Chris05

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    Still the first fight for me, but I agree that the second is quite underated due to the fact that both were past their best and the unsatisfactory nature of the verdict. The way some people describe it, you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a stinker. It was actually a really good in its own right. Just not at the same level as the first in terms of quality, drama and historical significance.
     
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  15. TBooze

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    Fight one was the better fight.


    Fight two was more fun.
     
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