Does current Canelo beat Mayweather he originally faced?

Its not about years. Its simple, a boxer can fight for a decade but if all he does is clean out a bunch of scrubs, does that make him experienced than a champion who regularly fights other guys in that level but has only been fighting for 3 years? The answer is no. We arent comparing just some random boxers here, we are picking apart champions and all time greats. To simplify it to just years of fighting is absurd.

 

Canelo was a world champion who had boxed pro for eight years before meeting Mayweather.
He had fought world class opponents prior to Mayweather. So in a sense he was experienced on the World stage of boxing.
Davey Moore was a champion I think In only a handful of fights Winning his title in his 8th pro fight. THAT is inexperienced on the world class level.
Canelo going into the Mayweather fight had fought former World champions,unbeaten world class fighters and had won a world title. THAT is not inexperienced.

 

My point wasnt that less experience is inexperience. My point was Canelo was inexperienced at that level. I didnt make a statement on whether canelo could beat mayweather now or if canelo was skilled enough or not. By the time they fought Mayweather was near the end of his career and had ran rings against other champions. Canelo on the other hand has only fought 2 guys who you could argue were in the level of what mayweather has faced. Canelo simply did not have the rounds against elite talent under his belt at that time. Thus, he was too green to pick on a seasoned all time great who has done practically everything.

As to whether or not i think canelo can beat mayweather now. I think yes he CAN. but i dont think he will. Patience is something that canelo has picked up now that will help him in a hypothetical rematch. But he still doesnt cut off the ring as well as he needs to beat the likes of floyd. He has other tools like cutting guys down with body shots, but thats something floyd has seen in his career. So to go back to my point, mayweather at the time of their fight has seen it all, canelo has seen spurts of it in 2 fights against guys who arent even in the level of floyd or the guys floyd has fought. Thats the very meaning of being green and inexperience at the championship and elite level.

 

What a great post. And that's what I too was trying to get at - Mayweather dominated him and all of the sudden Canelo would now beat Mayweather.
If their fight had been even remotely close I could see Canelo winning but it wasn't- he got outclassed by Mayweather and rather easily.

 

So again to really debunk this experience that he needed against floyd. How does mosley and lara stack up against the guys floyd has fought up to that point.

 

I can't sleep. There's the sound of people sucking Floyd off echoing through the dark.

 

THAT is a different argument. I might even go along with it.

But we are talking about a massive version of Canelo that is better in almost every respect than the version Floyd fought. They are not the same fighter.

 

Lara was and is a fine pro. Very talented. Shane of course had seen better days.
Thier is nobody that compares to Mayweather. He's one of a kind with insane talent that's what you don't understand.
And the difference in the skills levels displayed when Canelo clashed with him was HUGE Canelo was outclassed.

 

Yepp. I mean youre thrown into a fight with PBF... How is 8 years and 40 fights against subpar fighters gonna stack up against an ATG. And it showed in the fight. Canelo didnt know what hit him. He was made to look like a school boy for 12 rounds. In other words, green.

 

yes. Ill double down by saying even theo WAS green despite his win.

 

He simply didn't have the skills needed to compete with Mayweather. I think I gave him ONE round.
And you forget something - THEY called Mayweather out did they not?

 

Eh, probably not, unless Canelo is allowed to bring his clout with him that'll help him retain size and strength (in which case, we must also go further into fantasy land where Mayweather needs money). Most of Caleb's best moments were from effective uses of the Philly shell, and that seems to be what gives Canelo problems, even now.