Does current Canelo beat Mayweather he originally faced?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    They wouldn’t throw that many against a 150 pound fighter.

    And they’d walk walk him down aggressively.
     
  2. boxerfan13

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    Canelo would not. Which is my point.
     
  3. Loudon

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    He’s not that impressive against slick fighters at his own weight.

    The huge difference in weight tips the balance considerably in his favour.

    That’s the point.

    A 150 pound Floyd isn’t pot shotting today’s SMW version of Canelo.

    Today’s SMW version of Canelo who’s knocked out SMW’s and a LHW, isn’t going to stand off of Floyd in the centre of the ring.

    Today’s version of Canelo would put Floyd on the defensive.

    He wouldn’t try and box him like he did in 2013.

    He’d impose his size, strength and punching power and back him up.

    A less confident, defensive version of Floyd vs today’s version of Canelo would be a different fight altogether.
     
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  4. Loudon

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    I don’t care how many punches he threw against a fellow SMW.

    We’re talking about last nights version of Canelo fighting a 36 year old, 150 pound version of Floyd.

    Canelo had huge respect for Floyd back in 2013.

    Today’s version wouldn’t show him any.

    Ask yourself how offensive that version of Floyd would realistically have been, against last nights version of Canelo?

    What next?

    A 150 pound Floyd would have beaten Toney?

    You’re the one who needs to come back to reality.

    Oscar and Maidana pressed Floyd and caused him huge issues.

    A 2013 version of Canelo could have made the fight closer with a different game plan and some more aggression and confidence.

    Last nights version would have just walked him down.

    Floyd would have been put into a defensive shell all night.
     
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  5. Loudon

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    Go and educate yourself on what happened.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    He barely touched Floyd because he waited and stood off of him, letting Floyd take control of the centre of the ring, as well as the fight.

    Go and watch the Maidana fight.

    Today’s Canelo would have backed him up.
     
  7. Loudon

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    Again, go and educate yourself on what happened.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    Of course not.

    That’s the point.

    A fight between today’s SMW version of Canelo vs a 150 pound version of Floyd, isn’t even a fair fight.
     
  9. Loudon

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    We’re not talking prime for prime.

    We’re talking about a 150 pound Floyd, vs last nights Canelo.
     
  10. Pimp C

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    Canelo can't fight like maidana if he tried he'd gas out and have nothing left and be a sitting duck. Canelo fought to his strengths they just weren't good enough. At the end of the day canelo is a counter puncher that's who he is as a fighter.
     
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  11. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    I think the fight would go fairly similarly. Canelo might get slightly more success because he has improved. But Floyd just had too much for any version of him
     
  12. boxerfan13

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    Floyd would be in a defensive shell...


    Caleb Plant threw more punches than Canelo did last night. You've got to be kidding me
     
  13. Loudon

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    I suggest you go and watch the fight again.

    There were many times when Floyd was on the ropes and in the corner, yet Canelo just waited and waited.

    Oscar De La Hoya has never been a pressure fighter. But when Floyd was backed up on the ropes and in the corner, he pressed him and pressured him, which won him rounds, where Floyd had to cover up and weather the storm.

    Canelo was very wary of Floyd’s hand speed. He seemed scared of getting countered by Floyd’s right hand.

    Floyd had huge confidence and Canelo was passive.

    You reverse those things and you get a different fight altogether.

    His reach and speed haven’t changed, but he’s more confident. He’s much bigger, stronger and more powerful than he was. He’s more aggressive. He’s more experienced.

    You’d have to be a fool to think that Floyd could have replicated those tactics from 2013.

    Again, Canelo would have backed him up with aggression.

    And Floyd would have backed up, as he wouldn’t have gone on the offensive against a big punching SMW-LHW.

    It’s that simple.

    A more cautious Floyd against a more aggressive Canelo, does not give you an easy U/D for Floyd.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    He’s not tying up a prime, aggressive SMW-LHW.

    We’re talking about the same guy who wouldn’t even fight Canelo at 154.

    He’s never looked hurt with a body shot his whole career?

    And how many SMW’s and LHW’s did Floyd fight in his career?

    You’re talking about 2 different versions of Canelo here.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Today’s Canelo would walk 2013 Floyd down.

    The version of Floyd who would only fight Canelo at 152 pounds, would not stand in the centre of the ring and try and pot shot today’s SMW version of Canelo.

    It’s a complete fantasy.

    GGG was apparently easy work.

    Easy said than done.

    Floyd took advantage of an inexperienced Canelo and he deserves huge credit for it.

    He had supreme confidence in his hand speed.

    He was offensive.

    Again, Floyd would never have approached an elite level, prime SMW-LHW in the same way.

    He would never have been as confident today, as what he was back then. And if you can’t see how that would have altered the outcome of the fight, then I’m at a complete loss.

    This is not Fight Night on the PS4.

    We’re talking about a 36 year old, 150 pound fighter vs last nights prime SMW version of Canelo.
     
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