Does current Canelo beat Mayweather he originally faced?

I agree. But if you read the thread, there’s many members claiming that Floyd would have schooled the specific SMW version of Canelo who fought Plant last night.

They don’t realise that changing the equations from 2013, would have given you different versions of each fighter, which in turn would realistically and logically have produced a completely different outcome.

 

Because when they fought Canelo was so far out of his league and it showed. He basically lost what 11 rounds in a 12 round fight. And quite EASILY.
If it was a close fight where Canelo DID anything that remotely bothered Mayweather you could say hey he could improve upon this performance so he might be able to change the outcome.
But you can't get totally blanked for almost an entire fight and turn a round and say next time is different.
How about trying to win multiple rounds first?

Last night Canelo was having problems with Plant who I respect but lets not get it twisted - in the realm of things Plant isn't near Mayweather in terms of pretty much ANYTHING.
Marcos fought Mayweather when? Towards the end of Mayweathers career and don't even start that Marcos beat Mayweather because he didn't in either fight. Gave a great account of himself and did his best but the decision was never in any doubt.

Lara now is alot older then he was. If Canelo was confident in a better victory he could have rematched Lara.

So by the time Canelo fought him was NOT an elite Light heavy. Not even close considering he struggled in his previous fight against YARDE.

And that's the problem with you guys honestly - you act like Canelo took on the best Light Heavy on the planet when he did not. And you know it.

 

Huge but not enough.

 

Lmao. The fact you thought that was any type of real fight lets me know

What's ridiculous is acting like Floyd wasn't a welterweight fight night fighting a Super Middleweight Canelo when they fought.. Floyd lost weight fight night and Canelo gained 13lbs. The fact people leave that out is utter madness. You keep saying that dumb crap and basing off a fairy tale. Canelo threw 361 punches against Plant.. He's not more aggressive. Canelo is the same fighter 361 punches in a 10 1/2 round fight is not aggressive.

Floyd got called a runner and he averaged 40 punches a round at WW. Canelo doesn't sniff that usually. But go ahead and keep copying and pasting the same lie

 

Yep.. Canelo didn't weigh 165lbs on fight night.. Which is in the Super Middleweight division when Floyd slaughtered him. De-lu-sion-al.

 

I don't leave it out. Canelo was 165lb at fight night, a whole 7lb less than he was in his last fight against Trout. And did he ever weigh that low ever gain afterwards? If not, why...probably because he didn't feel it was ideal for him. And Floyd was what, 150lb or so...technically more of a light middleweight than a welterweight if you really wanna go with fight night weight as the standard.

Canelo is simply methodical and applies pressure as such, not sure about aggressive. And aggressive doesn't necessarily imply volume punching if that's what you want to say.

 

Really? Cotto whooped Geale who weighed 182lb on fight night. So next your gonna say Cotto can beat Okolie or something?

 

Maidana retired before Floyd, so who was closer to the end of their careers? Hell Maidana had taken worse punishment at that point than Floyd.

Lara got whooped by Molina but was gifted a draw. His loss against Canelo was payback for what he did to Carlos.

 

OMG, when the voice of reason on a Mayweather thread is Pimp C you know that the radicals have taken over the thread

There's no shame in admitting that size is real and that weight classes exist for a reason. I'm not a Floyd fan, but even I have to admit that PBF did great in even being in 154, a weight class clearly too big for him even then. There's no way that even Floyd goes up to 168 friggin lbs and beats the best at that weight. I mean I love GGG but I'd never in a million years claim he'd go up to cruiser and beat Usyk.

 

That has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Canelo was 20 lbs bigger than Floyd and fought timid as hell and couldn't hit Floyd. Floyd walked him down and beat him from pillar to post. Canelo was 20lbs bigger and was on the ropes against Floyd and yall want us to believe that him being 10-15lbs bigger While never using his weight as an advantage would bother Floyd..

I'll say this slowwwly for you..

Floyd couldn't beat any SMW... He could beat CANELO at SMW because of his style.

 

If you think Canelo post-GGG would be timid with Floyd @168 then I say "put down the crack pipe".

Canelo's stye is VERY different post-GGG, and nothing like how he fought Mayweather.

 

If Canelo doesn't catch the guy with serious shots he ain't going no where. He is not a super active fighter. Very selective with his punches. Mayweather would not be bothered if nothing can hit him. The question is how easy would the fight with current Canelo be for Floyd. Surely a top 10 easy fight for him.

 

Canelo in 2021: "If i would fight Floyd now I would throw less punches but hit him more than in the last fight". The math simply doesn't work here.

 

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Floyd didn't really look that much smaller than Canelo.

Today's Clenelo would literally kill Floyd in the ring.

 

I am not sure. A guy who moves still takes Canelo out of his plan to have a guy in front of him. Mayweather is much better than Plant or any of the guys Mayweather has fought recently. That is why when people say well Canelo would do well with Hearns or Leonard or Hagler I think, no not really for sure on that. That is a step up.