Best of the Non-Best: HW division

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Premise of the thread is a simple one

    For every decade I'm going to list the man, in my opinion, that was the best man to never be ranked as number 1 in the division (if someone has been ranked the best in another decade, they're disqualified).

    Then we can discuss who was the best out of those listed, if we want, or we can dismiss it as a crap idea, who knows.

    2010s: Wilder
    2000s: Byrd
    1990s: Golota
    1980s: Witherspoon
    1970s: Lyle
    1960s: Williams
    1950s: Valdes
    1940s: Ray
    1930s:Galento
    1920s: Wills
    1910s: Langford
    1900s: Langford

    If you have any better choices feel free to throw their names into the hat, but try to stick to the criteria of they've never been ranked number 1 in the world.

    For my money, looking at the rough draft, I'm gonna go with Witherspoon.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why Galento? There are many better choices than him.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    2010s: Alexander Povetkin
    2000s: Chris Byrd
    1990s: Ike Ibeabuci
    1980s: Pinklon Thomas
    1970s: Jimmy Young
    1960s: Floyd Patterson
    1950s: Archie Moore
    1940s: Billy Conn
    1930s: Tommy Loughran
    1920s: Harry Wills
    1910s: Sam Langford

    I don't know about 1900s, but it shouldn't be Langford. He wasn't even a heavyweight until like 1909. I'd likely have Peter Jackson in the 1890s.
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

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    Okay, the thread title had me lost and I see the foreign thing under your username and I think you're just having trouble explaining what you're asking so lemme holler at you and try and see what you meant. I think you meant if Michael "NUNN" were to go heavyweight after he received his honoury light heavyweight championship belt from the WBsizzle, making him a three-time champion, and he won a fourth title in whatever decade that would make this, then would he be p4p above Toney then again for the second time? It probably would but that ish is not going to happen, Luf.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

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    Doesn't count, as he was the number one in the 1950s.

    Other than that, I like your list. May prefer Witherspoon over Thomas.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Well, back to my original pick of Machen.

    And Pinklon showed he was conclusively better head-to-head than Witherspoon IMO.
     
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  7. Tonto62

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    Valdes was ranked number 1 at the end of 1953 & 1954.
    Wills was number 1 at the end of 1924 & 25.
    Galento was number 1 in Dec 1939.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    Then list them. As i said as long as someone picks a man who's never been considered the best, it's all good.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Ibeabuchi is such a good shout. Can't believe I didn't think of him.

    As for 1900s, weight divisions weren't as cut and dry then as they are now.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    In all those years we had a champion ranked above them.
     
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  11. Tonto62

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    Then you should have specified that, you're wrong anyway there was no one reigning above Byrd in2005.The title was vacant.
     
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  12. 70sFan865

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    I'd also go with Loughran as well. He was remarkably good at HW.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    I literally title the thread "Best of the None Best" didn't think I needed to be more specific.
     
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    Loughran was a good un. Agreed.
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

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    Machen was number one in another decade.
     
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