If Tyson had fought in the 60s and 70s, would he have ever won a world title?

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Sure he did. He was nailing Patterson with that jab from long distance forcing him to try and go under which set Liston up to land his power shots. The commentator even mentioned it all.
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    right but wrong right he did use it from distance but not to outbox like a ali did or others so no that reach is not impressive to me and was slow

    didnt I show you days ago razor moving good and you said how he lost the match when my breakdown had nothing to do with winning or losing legend magoo
     
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    I don’t remember
     
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    you skipped over the top part am I not right on that or is it a lie
     
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    I didn’t bother replying because I disagree. Liston knew how to box and use the jab.
     
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    so your saying son used his jab to outbox and could do it all day like ali prove it by video cause thats a lie and you know it cause that's what I asked you at first and you skipped over it and now doing agian like you did before on the razor topic

    your adding in something that wasnt said to skip over the point why do you do that always with me

    we need to stay on topic here legend magoo you gotta stop doing that
     
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    I never said he was like Ali. And I don’t know what you’re talking about. Liston is credited by many as having one of the best left jabs of all time. You act like he was some plodding thug who couldn’t fight. Then again you say that about most guys before 1980. Wasn’t it you who said that Tommy Morrison “ moved “ better than Joe Louis and used a video of him getting killed by Michael Bentt to validate that point ? Was that a joke ?
     
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    that was it it was tommy and yea tom did move better see how you did remember you said you didnt you should have known it was somebody

    you had said instead of responding to the breakdown said how tom lost when the whole breakdown was how tom moved better

    well my point is the only topic I said I said outboxing you skipped over that and inserted him having a nice jab when it's not the same thing son never used his reach to outbox anybody which is fact which means his jab is overrated and cause the speed was slow using it and it basic

    I cant help that I wont act blind and act like son wasnt basic and slow come forward he was

    I cant help that the fighters in the louis era and before was missing mutiple advances in upper and lower body movement they did which I always can prove by vid but nobody even use a legend cant prove it cause it didnt exist

    same way you cant prove that son was a outboxer which I asked for cause it didnt exist he was no larry ali fury or any other advanced outboxer son was basic
     
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    Oh sure…. I should have remembered that you were talking about “ somebody.” Never mind who’s name it was, right ?
    I showed you footage of Liston using his jab and reach from the outside against a world champion and you ignored it…. Not my problem.

    If you think Morrison “ moved “ so well for two minutes ( most of which spent on the canvas ) then polishing a turd should be a serious consideration as a profession for you.
     
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    I didnt ignore it I agreed I said he did jab but I said to that it wasnt used as outboxing and it was slow and come forward

    well i never asked you who won or lost has nothing to do with the before the ko im always specific in detail the part im talking on and you know I never said or implied a win or loss you gotta problem avoiding topics once you see you might be in danger of being exposed as a liar I noticed that cause you did it tonite

    you know im right son wasnt larry ali or others who was a outboxer thats why you only put he used the jab you left out outboxing
     
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    He boxed from the outside just fine. You can see it in may number of his fights. I already said that I never compared him to Ali and Holmes. And you exposing me as a liar ? Lol. Sure call me whatever you like. I couldn’t care less.
     
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    you didnt compare to ali but you said his jab was great it wasnt not compared to a ali larry or any other outboxer thats the problem you people act like he was a outboxer when he wasnt his jab was basic come forward he never could outbox like the names and others I didnt say I said so why hype his jab up that way

    and you should care being called a liar when your a legend here your supposed to be a person who tells the truth here
     
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    Why just Liston, but prime Foreman and Ali couldn´t ???
     
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    Liston’s jab had been compared to Holmes, Klitschkos and Ali’s. He’s one of the best heavyweight jabbers of all time. He moved better than most people you could think of
     
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    I see no reason why a prime Holmes couldn't pull off the fight that Douglas did.

    But, anyway, Mike would have been a wrecking ball in any decade, the only issue would be knocking off the top few guys. If the question was would he get a title shot, the answer is an unqualified yes.