The Great Trainers & Fighters on Jack Dempsey

:goodabsolutly. with hindsight historians can knock him now but to a generation he was seen as the real deal of the day. carpentier made it to superstardom, there was huge substance there as well as box office apeal. internationaly he was as big as elvis, much bigger than greb and wills.

 

Rocky, your post is back again, and so am I. You are on target about the popularity of Carpentier in those halycon days.Georges was a "rock" star of those days, with even non boxing fans,especially the women extolling his
looks and physique ala Rudolf Valentino...Carpentier 2 165-70 lbs was the
bain of British Heavyweights, flattening Bomb. Billy Wells and Joe Beckett.
A tidbit- I posted before. Aboutthirt five years ago while in my work, I was in the home of an elderly man in Manhasset, Long Island. On his wall there were a couple of photos of him and Carpentier together. He explained to me that Carpentier's training camp for his bout with Jack Dempsey, was
close to his home, where we were, and that he was the only one who was
allowed in the training camp, thus the pictures on the wall.
I later read up on the Carpentier/Dempsey fight and Carpentier indeed trained in secrecy, for whatever their reasoning..The training camp was later demolished the old man explained...Great Post, Rocky. But no matter
what the old writers, boxers, and trainers, who saw Dempsey at his unfilmed prime, and the fighters after him, who called him the greatest
as old Sam Langford proclaimed, the naysayers ninety years later will deny.
Keep the faith Rocky...:good:good:good

 

I think Carpentier training in secrecy was largely at Tex Rickard's bequest.
He was trying to hide how small Carpentier was from the press at large.

People who don't think Greb's lack of size and lack of punch would've been a promotional problem when trying sell it to the masses are deluded and working with a lot of hindsight and knowledge that the average fan, or even writer, at that time, didn't have as much access to or an immediate grasp of.

Greb was a high risk fight, but most of the public and writers wouldn't have been convinced he was as much of a threat as a Firpo or a Willard.

 

Christ on a bike!

There are some pretty ****ed up postings on this one.

''Mike Tyson may go 1 round with Dempsey, maybe 2''.....did Ray Arcel seriously say that?

McGrain, i salute you for showing patience far beyond anything that anyone should have to deal with.

Rockysplitnose..... seriously?....attempting to compare Dempsey's resume to Ali's?....WTF!?

Sorry to bump an old thread again guys but for those who haven't yet seen it....enjoy!

 

Than he nukes him. I don't see the problem.

I couldn't help it. Sorry.

 

Thanks for posting, great read

 

Wait can we cuss in italics?

Another ****ing Dempsey thread.

 

Fvck Dempsey.

 

It was once. Than came the 5h1tstorm. As usual.

 

I just had to re-read the whole thread again to really take it all in

Has to be the highest concentration of delusion contained in these pages than all of the other threads combined.

## I particularly enjoyed the demented comment ##

 

This hasn't seen daylight for six years. One of the first threads I lurked in.

Let's just bump this one. Yes I am currently on a Dempsey binge.

 

Ray Arcel about Jack Dempsey:

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