How would Canelo do against the 4 Kings?

There's no way Hearns fighting Canelo on the inside would work

 

This thread is turning obviously predictable.

Ok back to reality. Canelo beats Duran and Hearns gets outboxed by Leonard and losses a close one to Hagler in one hell of a fight. Seems about fair to me.

 

You said he'd "destroy" Duran. It was SRL you labelled "a difficult one".

 

Canelo couldn't even 'destroy' an old Cotto, and couldn't get anywhere with an old Mayweather. At 154, an in-shape Duran presents a very difficult match-up and should absolutely not be dismissed based on size alone.

Leonard is a horrendous match-up stylistically, and clearly showed he had the quality at MW/JMW to beat Canelo as he managed to beat Hagler there. I doubt Canelo wins, but if he does it's based on nothing but size.

Hearns isn't getting one-shotted and that's it, game over. Especially not at 154, where Canelo's power wasn't a third of what Barkley's was. Hearns picks Canelo apart at range, and his frightening right hand spooks Canelo out of any fight ending challengers.

And Hagler is an obvious pick. Canelo's size advantage - which is far closer to ten pounds than twenty - wouldn't mean much.

 

Canelo has made a bunch of growth men angry and overly sentimental just by winning fights.

 

The Leonard fight would have to be at 154 though; Canelo would win at 160+.

 

Always thought winning fights was pretty important where boxing was concerned.

 

Again you're words display a real lack of knowledge of past fighters. If I tell you Hearns at 6'1" with a 78" reach has very substantial physical advantages over the 5'8" Canelo with a 70" reach why would Hearns attempt to fight Canelo on the inside? You're lack of knowledge in thinking Hearns has to be trying to fight Canelo inside because he's fighting aggressive tells me you associate aggression with fighting inside.
Most great fighters, even Ali fought with aggression. A fighter doesn't need to be fighting in close to fight aggressively.
When Hearns fought aggressively, it was popping that long left lead in the opponents face , stalking them, setting up to drop the right hand.
He wasn't in close , taking away his advantages of height , reach, and speed.
But he was very aggressive in doing that.
And not that Hearns couldn't fight on the inside, because when he did , he held his own against all but two ATG'S in his and their primes.
How many prime ATG'S has Canelo faced. How many very goods?
Canelo is the latest flavor of the month for many of the posters on this site.
The ones that associate greatness with wins instead of who they faced to get wins.
The same group that think Mayweather Jr, is the greatest fighter in history because of his undeafeated record. That same group that had Lomo beating Duran at lightweight. That same group that had Wilder for Pete's sake ko'ing every past fighter in history.

 

I've taken the OP to mean pound-for-pound, since no division-limit was defined.

Leonard and Duran at 147; Hearns at 154 and Hagler at 160.


In which case: Kings: 4 - Canelo: 0

 

I'd love to see the Duran who dismantled Moore get his hands on Canelo at 154 pounds. This pre-roid version of Alvarez gets taken apart on the inside , beaten up and stopped.

 

I don't know.

This is a true case of era being a big deal. Canelo has rehydrated 15-20 lbs in some fights. And 20 lbs means a lot in these smaller divisions.

So we might see a 165 lb Hagler vs a 180 lb Canelo, who plans on exploiting that weight and strength advantage. He'd be stronger than any of these guys, dude is a bull.

I think they all beat him on a level playing field but not sure where that would be at.

I think drained Super Welter Canelo would be the most vulnerable to being outfoxed.

I think light heavy 175 lb Hearns out boxes a 180 lb Canelo. But it would be a hard fight.

 

Yeah. I think that's the most vulnerable version of Canelo as well. The one that was struggling with May and Lara.

 

Canelo is a very good boxer.

But he isn't in the same league as Hearns or Hagler, let alone SRL and Duran. All four are at least 1 league above him P4P.

They all match up fine with him H2H too.

 

When will you be returning to reality?

 

My lack of knowledge? Hearns lost to Ray Leonard by Leonard pressing him, I'm not even saying Canelo is better than Leonard, but he is 10x better at pressure fighting and that ain't even a debate, if Hearns tried pressuring Canelo, even if he keeps it long, Canelo is great at giving a target taking it away and countering, he makes you think there is a target there so you commit to the punch and he makes you miss then you are right in range because you have committed and he counters, even if it is a straight punch, I've seen him do it, if Hearns if boxing on the back foot and not committing to punches, he wouldn't get countered, but I believe Canelo would catch up to him, like I said if Leonard can beat him by pressuring, then Canelo could