the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

My error. Insane those scores.

 

I wish he was talked about more and received more praise. He's easily one of the most entertaining fighters that ever lived.

 

my personal scorecard for hagler vs. leonard:

Rd 1: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 2: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 3: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 4: Hagler 9-10 Leonard (I debated deducting a point for a low blow but decided against it)

Rd 5: Hagler 10-9 Leonard

Rd 6: Hagler 10-9 Leonard

Rd 7: Hagler 10-9 Leonard

Rd 8: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 9: Hagler 10-10 Leonard (what a round!)

Rd 10: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 11: Hagler 9-10 Leonard

Rd 12: Hagler 10-9 Leonard


Final Score: Hagler 113-116 Leonard

 

Lomachenko vs Linares

Aside from the knockdown, which was legit, solid, and hurt Loma, Loma controlled this fight and won in the same level of dominance as he did at LW.

He broke Linares down into tiny pieces and controlled the fight against the best LW in the world.

But that knockdown by Linares was beautiful.

 

Lomachenko vs Pedraza

1:10-9
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:10-9
5:9-10
6:10-9
7:10-9
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10:9-10
11:10-7
12:10-9

118-108

Lomachenko did what he does here. Times his opponent, bewildered them with footwork, sharp well placed combinations.

The difference here was two fold.

One he's in a division that he's not able to dominate physically, so he can't just overwhelm his opposition the way he did at SFW. Not to say he can't control the fight, but to say he doesn't dominate to the point his opponent quits on his stool.

Secondly, Pedraza had a very awkward style, he kinda punched when Lomachenko punched, and had the durability to sustain that tactic. He was constantly moving, and very active.

He did enough to make the fight competitive in stages, but never enough to have the result in doubt.

Round 11 Loma got through finally and broke Pedraza down for a very good finish.

I don't feel Loma as a fighter is any worse at LW, he just isn't able to impose himself the same way.

 

Lomachenko vs Crolla

Loma looks punch perfect again here, but obviously this is a faded Anthony Crolla who provides name value only.

Loma just dominates, overwhelms and sinks Crolla behind a huge body shot.

Dominance.

 

Lomachenko vs Campbell

1:9-10
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:10-9
5:10-9
6:10-9
7:10-9
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10:10-9
11:10-8
12:10-9

118-109

This fight more than any other before the Lopez loss showed that as good as Lomachenko is, he isn't a phenom at LW.

Don't get me wrong, he's a 3 belt title holder at this point, beating 3 titlists and a faded ex titlists and he's beaten them all very clearly.

But he isn't cutting a swathe through this division, he's having to fight for every second. He isn't the imposing force, he isn't the bigger man, but he is the better man.

Campbell fought as good as he could, but ultimately it wasn't good enough, at times he made Lomachenko look less than a P4P superstar, but actually the whole run at LW has kind of suggested the same.

Linares dropped him with a big shot, Pedraza won exchanges at times, as did Campbell.

He's clearly the very best LW in the world after this fight, but he isn't unassailable the way he looked at SFW.

 

Lomachenko vs Lopez

1:9-10
2:9-10
3:9-10
4:9-10
5:9-10
6:9-10
7:9-10
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10:10-9
11:10-9
12:9-10

112-116

Lope makes Loma look very ordinary during the first 7 rounds here. He keeps him at range behind the long jab, times him with the right, really works the body and dramatically reduces Lomas output.

Loma is used to dancing his way into space, but he can't seem to get beyond those hooks to the body or the double jab.

Round 8 is the first round I have for Loma, here he finally works his way inside and gets off one of his famous sharp crisp combinations. The fight continues this way for the next 3 rounds as Lopez looks to have been figured out and Loma looks to close the show, coming on very strong.

Round 12 sees Lopez time Loma with a big uppercut and get some very solid power shots in, removing any doubt as to who the winner is.

There's enough by Loma here to suggest a rematch would be interesting, but there's more bt Lopez here to justify the judges decision.

 

Sugar Ray Seales v James Shuler (NABF middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Shuler
Round 2: 10-9 Shuler
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Seales
Round 5: 10-9 Shuler
Round 6: 10-9 Seales
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Shuler
Round 9: 10-9 Shuler
Round 10: 10-9 Shuler
Round 11: 10-9 Shuler
Round 12: 10-9 Shuler

Total: 118-112 Shuler (actual scores: 117-112, 118-111 and 119-110 all for Shuler)

I remember seeing these scores years ago and thinking the fight was one-sided. Something I would disagree with today after watching the bout. Shuler may have dominated the scores, but Seales was in every round looking to take the play away from the young cat. I didn't feel Shuler started to run away with this until the 8th onwards, in a very entertaining bout. I should mention the tragedy with both fighters. Shuler was on his way to the top and except for the hiccup against Tommy Hearns, he was fitting in nicely as a top contender. Unfortunately to be killed a week after the Hearns fight in a traffic accident with his new motorcycle. As for Seales, he would only have one more fight with severely failing vision due to 2 detached retinas. One thing is noticeable is Seales missing with some wild but easy shots in this fight. It makes one think how much he could really see at this time. But not to be morbid, they provided us with a damn good fight here.

 

A fight can be 100-90 and still be close in the sense that the winner edged every round. Some people don’t seem to get that.

 

Jaime Garza v Carmelo Negron

Man, when I saw this fight was out there I had to see it. I couldn't remember any details of the fight, but just seeing their two names matched together did it for me and they did not let me down. They went at it and were detonating some incredible ordnance on each other's jaw. Amazingly, despite the bombs, there were no knockdowns. The fight was stopped in the 5th with Negron sporting a severe laceration on the right eye. The doctor came in the ring and didn't even wipe it. Just took one look and told the ref to end it. Won't bother with a card here. I gave Negron the 2nd round and rounds 1, 3 and 4 to Garza for a 39-37 lead. I think everyone knew this was ending early, just a matter of when. Hope you guys have a gander. It's bombs away!

 

Thanks @scartissue. I'll see it in a few decades!

 

It's going on the watch list!

 

Chris Clarke v Clyde Gray II (Commonwealth welterweight title)

I wanted to watch both of their fights, but their first fight starts in the 2nd round and then again omits the 5th. At that point I just put down my pencil and enjoyed the remainder of the fight, which was very good. The ref cost Gray the fight in the 9th when Gray had him hurt and on the ropes when the ref interrupted just to have a look at Chris. The ref hemmed and hawed and finally just decided to let it go on. But a few more punches and Gray would have stopped him. The moment was gone. Clarke did, however, come out for the 10th full of vim and vigor and reopened a cut on Gray, which was stopped between rounds for his victory. In the rematch Chris fought a more subdued fight, trying not to get into so many dust-ups with Clyde because Clyde was winning handily the first time around with Clarke's aggressive style. So here we go. Canadian (or Commonwealth) 5 point must system in effect.

Round 1: 5-5 Even
Round 2: 5-4 Clarke
Round 3: 5-4 Gray
Round 4: They did it to me again. They stated due to copyright laws they cannot show the fight in its entirety, so they omitted this round.
Round 5: 5-4 Clarke
Round 6: 5-4 Clarke
Round 7: 5-4 Gray
Round 8: 5-4 Gray
Round 9: 5-4 Gray
Round 10: Gray drops Clarke 3 times and the ref saves a battered Clarke

Total through 9 completed rounds (actually 8 rounds) 37-36 Gray

I wouldn't have gone any further with the fight but I just happen to enjoy Clyde Gray fights, so this score is without the 4th round. After 80 or so pro bouts Clyde's skin was tissue-paper thin. Still, he was very dangerous at the end of his career to any young turk coming up. Thsi had to have been a great atmosphere in the Halifax Arena. By the sounds of it there was an even amount of fans for both fighters. Not the slugfest of their first encounter but still a decent fight.

 

The most exciting write-up you've done in ages scartissue! Not that your others haven't been good, but this one is of special importance to me. About a year ago I looked up everything I could on Clyde Gray, and never saw either of these, but you definitely have my interested savagely piqued! Thanks bro.