Why did Canelo move up to LHW for Kovalev, but can't do the same for Bivol & Beterbiev?

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  1. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    The guy has just become the 1st undisputed champ in a weight class 2 up from where he made his name. All I see here is who he should fight to be considered legit now. Crazy thing is, this is the same talk I saw before he left 154, before he left 160. Once he fights the guys the he's "absolutely avoiding" and defeats them, then they all of a sudden were washed, drained, peds etc whatever excuse helps guys sleep at night right? Let's say he takes down Beterbiev and Bivol in the next couple of years, then what? Oh man why did he move up to fight Beterbiev but not Fury, Wilder or Usyk?
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    He could fight the Charlos, andrade. But he beats them handidly. He could take on benavidez who he beats or Ramirez who gives canelo a good fight, he could fight Bivol which is a close fight, edge canelo, or Beterbiev where canlo probably gets kod
     
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  3. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Yet you just stated that he likely beats all those guys except maybe a couple? We have to get to a point where maybe he's just that great for his moment in time that maybe no one who's a realistic fight beats him, rather than hunt to unreasonable levels to find the "for sure" guy who beats him. He's already fought that guy, his name was Floyd Mayweather.
     
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  4. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure if it's a better question but its a good diversionary tactic to avoid the original question ....
     
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  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

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    You should watch the fight
     
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  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    lol, I did
     
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  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hate to keep saying this but if Beterbiev get past Browne he’ll be ripe for the picking for Canelo. He’ll be 38, injury prone and inactive. Canelo would beat him. But I don’t think Beterbiev is getting past Browne..
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Because 168 is an absolute wasteland of a division and it was much easier to unify than 175 and 160 was. Clen ducked ''horrible fighter'' WBO champ Boo Boo Andrade like he had Ebola but he fights the far less talented equally ''horrible'' Caleb Plant at the drop of a hat :facepalm:

    Bivol has been calling Clen out for years and even offered to fight him for a packet of peanuts. He would've jumped at the chance to unify with him at 175 but, just as I told you all the ginger necromancer would, he dropped that WBO strap like it was molten lead after beating a shot to smithereens still concussed drunk shell of Kovalev and he couldn't hightail it down to the weakest division in the sport, a division which is on par with the women's HW and CW divisions, any quicker and he's only piped up about facing Beterbiev and Bivol since they looked like crap in their previous fights against domestic levels after being very inactive.

    Bivol has only fought once since 2019 because E-Hearn wants him as rusty and stale as possible before feeding him to his ginger goose or Buatsi and Beterbiev who turns 37 in two months time has also only fought once since 2019 too and was ravaged by Covid. Clen and E-Hearn are a pair of snakes and we all know how their minds work. Clen's been very active for a reason.

    Clen's shameless ducking of a closer to prime GGG, literally having a state of the art Kazakhstani-proof electrified chicken coop built to hide out in from him and creating his own weight division to continue the duck until the signs of ageing and decline he'd been patiently biding his time waiting for to appear before he would dare pop his head out of it is the most brazen and cowardly duck in the history of the sport and it tells you eveything you need to know about his devious mindset and if he were to win every single one of his fights by scandalous robbery from here on until he hangs up his gloves his doe-eyed zero integrity teenybopper fangirls would not only continue to worship at his altar as fervently as they do now but they would find a way to score all those fights for him.
     
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  9. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who says he wont?
     
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  10. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    168 is a waste land now? When Canelo moved up from 160 to 168 to fight Rocky people said that he picked that lowest risk and that he was terrified of Smith and Saunders and how they were going to easliy beat Canelo lol how did that turn out?
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    He thought he could win G don't have the same confidence
     
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  12. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol and Beterbiev would eat Benavidez.
     
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  13. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Why didn't throw one single power jab? That is the answer.
     
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

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    3 eyes you have no clue
     
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  15. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beterbiev is slipping... bivol is lazy and coasts... benavidez is also lazy but when he's switched on he's the one I fancy to give canelo the most problems
     
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