Galahad loss - TKO???

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    BoxRec editors must be related to Kid Gallahad to call an out cold knockout a TKO. It's listed as TKO loss in his record. And description below the fight looks even worse:

    ..."Martinez cut over the right eye in the 3rd round; Galahad down late in the 5th round and tko’d by a right to the chin."...

    He wasn't tko'd by a right to the chin, he was KFTOed cold
     
  2. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, it's confusing.

    When ref don't count what does it mean ? TKO ? KO ?
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ko means you cant beat the count.
     
  4. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    TKO or KO....we all seen it. Not sure what difference it makes in the grand scheme of things what box rec have it down as
     
  5. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure Whytes nap courtesy of Povetkin was a TKO for the same reason. No count, no knockout.
     
  6. kim_jong_un

    kim_jong_un Member banned Full Member

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    As others have said, if the referee doesn't give a count, it's TKO. Weird rule, but it is what it is.
     
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  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why Povetkin vs Whyte first fight says KO on the record if that's the rule ?
     
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  8. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the cleanest KO you are ever going to see.
     
  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Stupid rule.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ref technically stopped the fight and didn't complete a ten count so it can be recorded as a TKO. That's the thing about TKO's and KO's on boxers records unless you actually watch the stoppage you really don't know if it's a KO or TKO. I'd say Galahad stoppage was a KO he wasn't getting up from that but officially it's a TKO.
     
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  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    It is the rule in most fights, but just like @kirk said, it's a stupid rule.
    For me it lists as KTFO
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Ref didn't get to ten... he didn't count him out. A bit daft seeing as he could have counted for a minute and Galahad would still not have been in a fit state to continue. Thankfully, we will forever have YouTube to confirm he was KTFO...
     
  13. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    It's a distinction so stupid that even bookies and betting sites consider them the same thing for gambling purposes; the very definition of 'distinction without a real difference.'
     
  14. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, I've always thought that a bit stupid - It's KO - Knocked Out, not CO - Counted Out.

    Even taken literally, TKO deals in semantics - "Technical Knock Out" > "to all intents and purposes, although the fighter wasn't counted out, it's technically equivalent to a knock-out"

    But there is a big difference between the ref saying "Hey this guy is so starched I don't even need to count" vs deciding that "hey this dude has taken too much punishment, I'm gonna save him from himself" - or worst case, putting the tin-hat on, "here's my opportunity to give the 'home' fighter the win" (aka the oft-termed "British Stoppage")

    What I haven't really thought about is when fighters are announced, and you get the "and 15 wins coming by way of Knock Out" - are TKOs generally counted in this figure, or only KOs? That would seem a bit harsh - i've always just assumed that TKOs are included in that, but makes me wonder now!
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Why would they be related to Galahad?