Riddick Bowe - Why Did He Not Face Lewis?

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Eddie Futch did not want that fight!
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe didn't want to lose his title in his first title defense.

    Lewis was his WBC mandatory. Bowe was obligated to fight Lewis next. Rock Newman had a lot of "ideas" - like a title defense during halftime of the Super Bowl in January 1993. Bowe and Newman had 12 months to screw around until they were obligated to give Holyfield a rematch. So they wanted to fight as many different (easy) opponents as they could.

    Lewis wasn't an easy opponent. He looked ferocious against Razor Ruddock.

    So, they ducked him.

    Now, Bowe wishes he didn't. Because everyone knows he ducked him. Evander Holyfield being one person who always reminds him of it.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Bowe laid a big, soft, soggy egg in his drawers. That's why.
     
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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He didn't fight him because Newman and Futch didn't think he could beat Lewis .. terrible risk reward at the time ..
     
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  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Neither man was afraid of the other. You people sound like knowitall amateurs without even the slightest bit of political savvy. Newman tried to play super hero by snubbing King and the WBC while Lewis priced himself out of the biggest purse he'd ever receive. Both teams screwed this up and to be honest Team Lewis sided with King when he had to and snubbed King when it fit. This was the case for Lennox's entire heavyweight career.

    Bowe KO 9 Lewis in 1992/1993
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Lewis didn't like the small mandatory percentage. He wanted more so rejected the WBCs own rules. 100% fact he rejected his own mandatory split. . On paper. Cannot be disputed. . Lewis ducked Bowe and thats all there is to it. . Indisputable factual evidence posted in the previous pages has already destroyed any opinion you may offer up as a rebuttal.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis showed a much greater willingness to fight dangerous opponents
    In that case they should have offered him more money
     
  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Total nonsense. The figure on offer from Newman was made very public and regarded by absolutely everyone, except Newman, as an insult. Newman was more or less publicly gloating about the sum on offer.

    Often overlooked is Newman also offered step-aside cash.

    Lewis earned three times what Newman offered against Tucker and more than what Bowe earned for fighting Dokes. LOL
     
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  9. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Hey *******, read my other replies before picking and choosing which ones you'd like to have long winded conversation with yourself. Does that sound like something even a baby could do? Because I'm sincerely asking, can you do that? Are you capable?

    Lewis priced himself out just like Newman tried to play SUperman. Lennox has a bad habit of doing this, just like when he ducked Chris Byrd and John Ruiz. Just like when he ducked the rematch with Vitlay and all of a sudden needed to retire. Just like he sued Mike Tyson to fight a rematch! Who the **** does that?

    Yeah, your hero Lennox Lewis shows some quite right integrity. Now **** off pud.
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    If Lewis wanted to win the belt, and was so confident in doing so, TAKE THE ****IN FIGHT!!! Bowe's team offered Lewis the exact same amount Holyfield's team offered Bowe when Bowe was challenger. So yeah, Lewis wasn't the champ, remember? See how that works?

    You obviously know nothing but the media newsfeed cannon fodder that casuals call gospel. There's a lot more involved and transparent if you know how to look for the politics involved in matchmaking. Get off your lazy ass and do some real research instead of googling and copying the first thing that pops up!

    You're smarter than that.
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am capable of realizing you are a charmless, clueless moron (which, granted, doesn't take much in the way of perceptive ability).

    I've read your other replies and there as full of **** as the one I responded to. But, I'm guessing you should be used to pulling bull**** theories out of your ass and writing crap about events of which you have no real knowledge. I rarely see you do anything else.

    PS - I'm sorry no more than an 80-word post seemed long-winded to you. I guess I should have taken your low attention span into consideration.
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    He was just a product of his ti--

    Er, no. Wait. I got this.

    He had a really heavy ring walk outf--

    No, no; not that, either.

    He left Rooney?

    Hm. Sounds about right.

    If only Bowe had still had Rooney...
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, the stuff you make up in your head is more real than the reported upon events and actual words from the mouths of those involved, which actually occurred and were spoken at the time? :lol: Ok.

    You're making noise about Bowe getting exactly the same amount to fight Holyfield, as that offered to Lewis ($3 million), but completely ignoring the fact that Holyfield - the Champion - was only guaranteed $5 million himself, with the rest being made up from revenues.

    You understand Bowe got more than $3 million with his share of the revenues, right?

    But, that aside, what does that make the split of the guaranteed purse for Bowe?

    I'll let you work that out. But here's a hint... ...it is more than 10% (and this remains the case, even when the split of Holyfield's and Bowe's share of the revenues is taken into consideration).

    Lewis counter-offered with a split of 75% to Bowe; 25% to Lewis.

    Newman declined.

    Case closed.
     
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  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure LL would have lasted that long.

    Steward Lewis is a different story. The Bowe who fought Golota would have been massacred imo.
     
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  15. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    CTE is a *****.

    I like that any random video or pic of Holyfield at any point into his retirement, he looks super fit. There's a point in that vid where he leans forward while sitting and his shirt pulls against his back, and you can see he still has those crazy lats. I doubt he's missed any scheduled workout in his entire life.
     
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