Ilunga Makabu vs. Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán

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Junior or Canelo?

Poll closed May 7, 2022.

  1. Makabu on points

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%

  2. Makabu by stoppage

    16 vote(s)
    19.8%

  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Álvarez on points

    28 vote(s)
    34.6%

  5. Álvarez by stoppage

    34 vote(s)
    42.0%
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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    this is the level of analysis debates are hashed out at. and they seriously expect serious responses.
     
    bandeedo, Nov 16, 2021
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  2. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So he will fight weakest champion in the nearest 3 divisions, but you fanboys would give him a pass.
     
    senpai, Nov 16, 2021
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    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apparently the WBC is moving their CW limit down to 190, and that will be in effect for this fight.
     
    sasto, Nov 16, 2021
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    what fanboys? be specific, lets get a response from these cretins, lol. lets find out how this pass stacks up.
     
    bandeedo, Nov 16, 2021
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  5. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another fix for the roided ginger. What will be the rehydration clause for this one.
     
    vast, Nov 16, 2021
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  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you have a problem with roided Pac when he fought Margarito for the 154 lb div at a catchweight?
     
    ElCyclon, Nov 16, 2021
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  7. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Clen moving up 32 pounds in one fight.

    :lol:
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a much higher jump no question but it's also very risky. I doubt Canelo would put on more than 10-15 lbs. He could probably beat this dude at CW without even putting on much weight.
     
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  9. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If that was Pac you'd be sucking him off more than usual.
     
    ElCyclon, Nov 16, 2021
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    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    32 pounds. Clenelo saucing hard.
     
    JOKER, Nov 16, 2021
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  11. lufcrazy

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    If the fight is at 200 pounds I can't envision Canelo winning tbh.

    At 190, if Makabu struggles to make weight then I favour him.

    Either way, what a challenge. Who cares if Makabu is the so called weakest champion, its clearly a bigger challenge than any fight people were hoping he'd take.

    Benavidez, Beterbiev or Bivol seemed to be the front runners in fight hopes. This is a bigger challenge than either of those 3 imo.
     
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    Your math is as faulty as your logic.
     
    ElCyclon, Nov 16, 2021
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    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WHO CARES!!!

    Alvarez has earned the right to a gimme fight after beating 3 undefeated fighter to unify a division within 11 months. As long as his next fight after that is against a legit threat, he's allowed a gimmie once and a while.

    And the funny thing is, this gimme is against a guy 32 lb bigger than him.
     
    uranage, Nov 16, 2021
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Makubu is a small CW with a short reach for that weight class who regularly comes in below the division limit.

    He weighed

    196½ for Bellew
    193 for Mchunu
    196½ for Kudryashov
    198¾ for Papin
    197½ for Cieslak

    Clenelo weighed 165 at 19 y/o in the ring
    172 at 21
    174 at 23

    Reputedly 177.4 against Lara

    ''On fight night, FOX's Heidi Androl reported that Alvarez weighed 177.4 pounds, with Lara coming in at 169.8 pounds.

    And ever since then his weights have mysteriously not been announced

    But he clearly weighs, and this is a conservative estimate, 180 now since he's moved up to MW and beyond and looks even thicker and more tank-like since going on his 'meat' diet.

    And what the hell happened to Makabu's rematch against his mandatory Mchunu which had been agreed to? That rotund toad Mauricio pushing his fairy godson to the front of the queue. Surely Clenelo has to earn his shot by fighting some actual CWs first right? You know how many crucified Usyk for not doing at HW even though he'd been mandatory for over 2 years before he got his shot and had two fights at the weight during that period and as per the WBO's own rule he could've waltzed straight into a title shot at the new weight immediately.

    Crawford literally received zero flak for invoking that rule TWICE, once at 140 and then again at 147 (and both shots at home too), the first of which five months after departing 135, the second 10 months after departing 140.
     
    Serge, Nov 17, 2021
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