Log in or Sign up

Tim Bradley tells Canelo to "stop manufacturing greatness" with strategic wins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Oncee, Nov 18, 2021.

Page 3 of 8

Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

Joined:

May 13, 2018

Messages:

5,515

Likes Received:

7,685

shadow111 said: ↑

Have some respect for yourself and for other boxers in the sport that may not be well known. I didn't claim to know much about Makabu before this announcement but now I'm taking the time to evaluate him as a fighter which is what we all should be doing. You and so many others just immediately jump to trashing anything that Canelo does especially if it isn't precisely what you selfishly think he should be doing. If you took the time to take a look at Makabu as a fighter and his career, I think you'll find that he's very talented and deserves credit for what he's accomplished in the sport. Instead of worrying about me and how I view the sport you should be more concerned with the state of your ignorance and how your skewed view of Canelo clouds your view and limits your ability to cover the sport properly.

To some people, hating on Canelo for fun has become like a hobby to live an existence of doing anything you can possibly do to discredit Canelo no matter who that hurts or how foolish it makes you look. But where it crosses the line is when you disrespect a fighter like Makabu just as a means to try and discredit Canelo. Then it's no longer just about Canelo but now you're taking a very accomplished boxer who deserves respect and trying to hang him out to dry just to perpetuate a narrative that is rooted in a kind of Canelo butthurt syndrome that saps you of practically all your boxing analytical thinking. You must live a very miserable life to not be excited about this fight or to use this opportunity to complain and moan about who you think Canelo should be fighting instead as if you're opinion means anything. I'm enjoying going back and taking a closer look at Makabu and watching some of his fights now and I've found a great fighter that frankly none of us knew very much about before this week. And that's OK, there's nothing wrong with not knowing much about Makabu and now taking the time to find out more and learn what kind of a fighter he is. That's the complete opposite of what Bradley is doing. This isn't a competition to pretend that you know more about more fighters than someone else. Showing all boxers respect should be a universal theme that everyone should agree with. Especially World Champions like Makabu that we all should be motivated to learn more about now.
Click to expand...

Laughable see through bandwagon jumping to pump up your boy.. you spend day in day out slating much better fighters than Makabu yet suddenly you've found a conscience when it comes to him because he's a Canelo opponent LOL .. Makabu was KOd on his debut & sparked by Bellew .. he's old too ... they knew what they were doing here & so do u .. clear, contrived cherry picking from the juiced up Mexican rodent & his PED factory team

Liquorice, Nov 18, 2021

#31

Zhuge Liang, BCS8, Quina74 and 2 others like this.

drenlou VIP Member

Joined:

Jan 22, 2015

Messages:

77,873

Likes Received:

42,615

Liquorice said: ↑

Laughable see through bandwagon jumping to pump up your boy.. you spend day in day out slating much better fighters than Makabu yet suddenly you've found a conscience when it comes to him because he's a Canelo opponent LOL .. Makabu was KOd on his debut & sparked by Bellew .. he's old too ... they knew what they were doing here & so do u .. clear, contrived cherry picking from the juiced up Mexican rodent & his PED factory team
Click to expand...

Hopkins lost his first pro fight, look at what he was able to do.(not comparing Mackaboo to hopkins) but Youre throwing around someone being "old", as if thats somehow matters. How much credit do you give Prime Kovalev for Besting "old" hopkins who lost his "debut" fight? I would hope alot because bhop even at 49 years old was still performing at a high level and beating good competition before fighting Kovalev. That was a great win for Kovalev, despite Hopkins being "old". All credit given.

drenlou, Nov 18, 2021

#32

The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

Joined:

Oct 29, 2012

Messages:

9,603

Likes Received:

11,324

drenlou said: ↑

Hopkins lost his first pro fight, look at what he was able to do.(not comparing Mackaboo to hopkins) but Youre throwing around someone being "old", as if thats somehow matters. How much credit do you give Prime Kovalev for Besting "old" hopkins who lost his "debut" fight? I would hope alot because bhop even at 49 years old was still performing at a high level and beating good competition before fighting Kovalev. That was a great win for Kovalev, despite Hopkins being "old". All credit given.
Click to expand...

"Old" Hopkins was still fighting at the top level girl. You say you aren't comparing Makabu to Hops...but you are. Did you go to school at all??

The Real Lance, Nov 18, 2021

#33

Zhuge Liang and BCS8 like this.
drenlou VIP Member

Joined:

Jan 22, 2015

Messages:

77,873

Likes Received:

42,615

The Real Lance said: ↑

"Old" Hopkins was still fighting at the top level girl. You say you aren't comparing Makabu to Hops...but you are. Did you go to school at all??
Click to expand...

im comparing Hopkins being "old" like the clown is trying to say about mackaboo. I never compared their accomplishments. Youre not very good at this Alt.

Stop quoting me already, you just bury yourself in every post you you reply to. Watching paint dry is more interesting than having a chat with you.

drenlou, Nov 18, 2021

#34

Joe-fist Wise men fear nothing Full Member

Joined:

Aug 24, 2021

Messages:

277

Likes Received:

195

The Real Lance said: ↑

"Old" Hopkins was still fighting at the top level girl. You say you aren't comparing Makabu to Hops...but you are. Did you go to school at all??
Click to expand...

Joe-fist, Nov 18, 2021

#35
Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Jan 4, 2008

Messages:

28,637

Likes Received:

14,003

This is getting a bit surreal. I'd like to have seen Canelo against Beterbiev next, but let's get somewhat real here. Becoming undisputed and then moving up two weight classes for a title with lots of room to spare for more fights in 2022 is better than what the vast majority of champions is doing.

Hell, we're stoked that Crawford is even facing a live body at WW finally, even if Porter has already lost to the other top guys and only is a gate keeper. GGG is facing Murata, not a unification in sight. Let's keep some perspective, shall we.

Bokaj, Nov 18, 2021

#36
MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Sep 19, 2012

Messages:

30,013

Likes Received:

33,937

I love watching Canelo fight and I rate him as P4P number one but Bradley makes a very good point and it is good to hear that come from a former elite pro boxer not some butt hurt internet fan.

MidniteProwler, Nov 18, 2021

#37

Zhuge Liang and FrankinDallas like this.

mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

Joined:

May 4, 2017

Messages:

36,653

Likes Received:

16,582

shadow111 said: ↑

Have some respect for yourself and for other boxers in the sport that may not be well known. I didn't claim to know much about Makabu before this announcement but now I'm taking the time to evaluate him as a fighter which is what we all should be doing. You and so many others just immediately jump to trashing anything that Canelo does especially if it isn't precisely what you selfishly think he should be doing. If you took the time to take a look at Makabu as a fighter and his career, I think you'll find that he's very talented and deserves credit for what he's accomplished in the sport. Instead of worrying about me and how I view the sport you should be more concerned with the state of your ignorance and how your skewed view of Canelo clouds your view and limits your ability to cover the sport properly.

To some people, hating on Canelo for fun has become like a hobby to live an existence of doing anything you can possibly do to discredit Canelo no matter who that hurts or how foolish it makes you look. But where it crosses the line is when you disrespect a fighter like Makabu just as a means to try and discredit Canelo. Then it's no longer just about Canelo but now you're taking a very accomplished boxer who deserves respect and trying to hang him out to dry just to perpetuate a narrative that is rooted in a kind of Canelo butthurt syndrome that saps you of practically all your boxing analytical thinking. You must live a very miserable life to not be excited about this fight or to use this opportunity to complain and moan about who you think Canelo should be fighting instead as if you're opinion means anything. I'm enjoying going back and taking a closer look at Makabu and watching some of his fights now and I've found a great fighter that frankly none of us knew very much about before this week. And that's OK, there's nothing wrong with not knowing much about Makabu and now taking the time to find out more and learn what kind of a fighter he is. That's the complete opposite of what Bradley is doing. This isn't a competition to pretend that you know more about more fighters than someone else. Showing all boxers respect should be a universal theme that everyone should agree with. Especially World Champions like Makabu that we all should be motivated to learn more about now.
Click to expand...

Canelo not good enough to beat high level boxers that outweigh him like that. Bivol beats him easy. Same with Usyk.

mark ant, Nov 18, 2021

#38
Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

Joined:

Jul 11, 2012

Messages:

14,260

Likes Received:

11,126

The Real Lance said: ↑

B & C fighters often have to compete w/ each other to get big shots. Even regular fights get nixed over politics or exclusives. Canelo gets to pick whoever he wants, whenever he wants.
Click to expand...

facts Lance.

he gets to pick now.
He wasn’t the A-Side till Floyd bowed out.

meanwhile Bivol & Beterbiev (B&C side types compared to the Canelo Brand)

Both of which I might add are fan favorites on these boards…. They are not fighting each other.
like so many other fighters Waiting & Hoping for that Canelo payday.

they also are NOT jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on a belt holder.

Both of which are things they are capable of.
Fighting each other in an attempt to unify as well as jumping up 2 weight divisions to collect another belt … aka questing for greatness.

Hanz Cholo, Nov 18, 2021

#39
Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Feb 2, 2006

Messages:

15,870

Likes Received:

15,141

shadow111 said: ↑

Have some respect for yourself and for other boxers in the sport that may not be well known. I didn't claim to know much about Makabu before this announcement but now I'm taking the time to evaluate him as a fighter which is what we all should be doing. You and so many others just immediately jump to trashing anything that Canelo does especially if it isn't precisely what you selfishly think he should be doing. If you took the time to take a look at Makabu as a fighter and his career, I think you'll find that he's very talented and deserves credit for what he's accomplished in the sport. Instead of worrying about me and how I view the sport you should be more concerned with the state of your ignorance and how your skewed view of Canelo clouds your view and limits your ability to cover the sport properly.

To some people, hating on Canelo for fun has become like a hobby to live an existence of doing anything you can possibly do to discredit Canelo no matter who that hurts or how foolish it makes you look. But where it crosses the line is when you disrespect a fighter like Makabu just as a means to try and discredit Canelo. Then it's no longer just about Canelo but now you're taking a very accomplished boxer who deserves respect and trying to hang him out to dry just to perpetuate a narrative that is rooted in a kind of Canelo butthurt syndrome that saps you of practically all your boxing analytical thinking. You must live a very miserable life to not be excited about this fight or to use this opportunity to complain and moan about who you think Canelo should be fighting instead as if you're opinion means anything. I'm enjoying going back and taking a closer look at Makabu and watching some of his fights now and I've found a great fighter that frankly none of us knew very much about before this week. And that's OK, there's nothing wrong with not knowing much about Makabu and now taking the time to find out more and learn what kind of a fighter he is. That's the complete opposite of what Bradley is doing. This isn't a competition to pretend that you know more about more fighters than someone else. Showing all boxers respect should be a universal theme that everyone should agree with. Especially World Champions like Makabu that we all should be motivated to learn more about now.
Click to expand...

You didn't know a THING about this opponent before his fight with Canelo was announced.
And its because he isn't very good.

Cobra33, Nov 18, 2021

#40
Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Feb 2, 2006

Messages:

15,870

Likes Received:

15,141

Hanz Cholo said: ↑

facts Lance.

he gets to pick now.
He wasn’t the A-Side till Floyd bowed out.

meanwhile Bivol & Beterbiev (B&C side types compared to the Canelo Brand)

Both of which I might add are fan favorites on these boards…. They are not fighting each other.
like so many other fighters Waiting & Hoping for that Canelo payday.

they also are NOT jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on a belt holder.

Both of which are things they are capable of.
Fighting each other in an attempt to unify as well as jumping up 2 weight divisions to collect another belt … aka questing for greatness.
Click to expand...

Did you think its POSSIBLE for them to jump weight classes since neither is really a draw?
And did you consider that if they did the Cruiserweight Champ might turn them down viewing them as too high a risk vs the reward
Lets get one thing straight. As a champion you make a pretty good payday with that title.
Even if your not a huge draw you still get paid.
You lose that belt and it cuts your money significantly.

Cobra33, Nov 18, 2021

#41

VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

Joined:

Feb 8, 2012

Messages:

5,811

Likes Received:

3,954

If Canelo picks you to fight… Awww no

You’ve already lost.

VBOX, Nov 18, 2021

#42
timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Jun 15, 2010

Messages:

18,718

Likes Received:

3,533

Bradley SMASHED it out of the park.

timeout, Nov 18, 2021

#43

Manfred likes this.
Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

Joined:

Feb 2, 2006

Messages:

15,870

Likes Received:

15,141

drenlou said: ↑

Hopkins lost his first pro fight, look at what he was able to do.(not comparing Mackaboo to hopkins) but Youre throwing around someone being "old", as if thats somehow matters. How much credit do you give Prime Kovalev for Besting "old" hopkins who lost his "debut" fight? I would hope alot because bhop even at 49 years old was still performing at a high level and beating good competition before fighting Kovalev. That was a great win for Kovalev, despite Hopkins being "old". All credit given.
Click to expand...

Hopkins lost his first pro fight because he was fighting LIGHTHEAVY at the time. I don't give KOV too much credit for beating a pro fighter who was 49 years old and not even close to his prime. Its more of a testament to Hopkins defensively to me on how he went the distance with KOV.
Its like asking you how much credit do you give Berbick for beating Ali?
If your legacy is beating a 49 year old and that is your best win that's pretty bad.

Cobra33, Nov 18, 2021

#44
drenlou VIP Member

Joined:

Jan 22, 2015

Messages:

77,873

Likes Received:

42,615

Cobra33 said: ↑

Hopkins lost his first pro fight because he was fighting LIGHTHEAVY at the time. I don't give KOV too much credit for beating a pro fighter who was 49 years old and not even close to his prime. Its more of a testament to Hopkins defensively to me on how he went the distance with KOV.
Its like asking you how much credit do you give Berbick for beating Ali?
If your legacy is beating a 49 year old and that is your best win that's pretty bad.
Click to expand...

Hopkins was the definition of an "Old" fighter, where "Mackaboo" doesnt really fit the criteria yet, especially not when compared to Hopkins age.

drenlou, Nov 18, 2021

#45

(You must log in or sign up to reply here.)

Page 3 of 8