If Tyson had fought in the 60s and 70s, would he have ever won a world title?

Although I don't agree with your theory, you do make a great argument.

Regarding Spinks, the Jinx wasn't too active and taking fights based on highest payouts. Because he didn't fight 3 times a year doesn't mean he wasn't ready or ill prepared.

Regarding Holmes, he wouldn't take a fight if he wasn't prepared. Larry Holmes is his own biggest fan and would never, ever ever ever ever ever take a fight he didn't believe he'd win.

Again, good arguments on your part and I do agree to a certain extent.

 

I think Spinks was a great win in that Tyson certainly did nothing wrong. He took care of business in the highest profile fight that could have been made at that point. I mean it doesn’t just apply to Tyson. Braddock was inactive going against Louis and still put up a hell of a fight so Tyson does deserve this as a signature win….but only so far as the Braddock win for Louis was.. or Jeffries win for Johnson, Dempsey win for Tunney kind of thing.

Yes but have you read what Larry wrote in his book about it? He says he fancied his chances, talked himself into it, but recognised he had made a terrible mistake as he stood waiting for the bell to ring. That’s only when it hit him. Larry said it was the one time he was frightened in the ring. He knew then he wasn’t able to do Himself justice. Holmes had let the money talk.

 

I love Larry Holmes. He's my 2nd favorite HW after Evander Holyfield. Against Tyson you could tell when he stepped in that squared circle he didn't look too happy. If he could've prepared better for Tyson (not sure fighting cans would prepare him any better) I'm still convinced he gets steamrolled in 1988.

Good post.

 

agian I say stop picking certain moments cause that doesn't work with me when I talk in general which can go for upper or lower body movement and agian your doing the slow feet movement why when I already proved bowe upperbody movement was way more advanced u left that out I see

im saying agian louis could dodge shots easier cause look at how they fought so basic stiff lack of movement I did agree to that for that reason only

louis wouldnt be able to dodge the same people bowe fought he would struggle to land

 

I thought we was comparing joe only I said more then once jersey was the best mover ever in the black and white era before the ali era I argee with him using the ring over Bowe better

I don't argee to Louis using the ring better then bowe though my mind wont change on that

 

your picking spots yea I agree to these spots but still flawed cause I talk in general not certain spots

 

You're arguing with someone who is convinced in his little, erroneous world my friend.

 

what does that mean to what I said you avoiding by trying to compare something that is no compare the people louis fought was stiff all of them even himself Jersey was the best mover but still stiff in certain upperbody movements

your point of being not to good is flawed compared to Louis era and before the no names you talk of would all beat the people in Louis era you cant say the same the other way around

 

louis was better but like I said before look at the people he fought how he fought way easier to pull off fancy combos

razor had to really work to pull off combos like that on people who really moved around the ring using upperbody movement not people who just stood there using basic stiff movement like Louis era and before

so when we really look at razor vs his opponents is more impressive
anybody can look good if they have some good type of training vs basic amateurish type people

ron ken earnie people who not known to move really great but could throw hard shots ken wasnt know to be a real hard shots these dudes would look the same way as louis had they been in his time