Canelo vs Usyk Cruiserweight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PistonHondai, Nov 17, 2021.


Who wins at Cruiserweight?

  1. Canelo

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  2. Usyk

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    94.9%
  1. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk would be better even if they were the same size.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Just consider how fleet of hand and foot, athletic and agile Usyk is for a 220lb man and then shrink him down to 168 and see what kind of athletic phenom monster you'd be dealing with. It's very rare for a HW to be as fleet of hand and foot, athletic and agile a Usyk, let alone for one to also possess such impressive stamina and an iron chin but he was even faster and more agile down at CW.

    Clenelo wouldn't be able to lay a glove on him. It would be like his fight against Floyd all over again but this time it's a 168 pound Floyd with 168 pound power and limitless stamina. You think Clenelo is outworking Usyk or cracking that iron chin of his? :risas3:

    Usyk threw almost 1000 punches against Gassiev, 218 of them being in the final two rounds

    905 against Hunter, 121 of them in the final round

    Clenelo doesn't get anywhere near that high

    Usyk on his slowest gear is Clenelo going full throttle and Usyk can maintain fighting at a much higher gear for all 12 rounds better than Clenelo can a lower one :lol:

    Usyk could beat Clenelo numerous ways, Clenelo could never beat Usyk in a million years even with his corrupt judges in his pocket and his PEDs jousted into his buttocks.

    Clenelo vs a HW or CW version of Usyk? :risas3::facepalm:

    Usyk is 6'3'' with a 78'' reach

    Even if Clenelo is coming in close to 190 these days as many knowledgeable fans suspect (albeit it's probably more like 185) a CW Usyk would still have 20lbs on him, a HW Usyk 30lbs and Usyk is just the much better fighter irrespective of weight and a terrible style match up for him.

    Clen can't stop or KO Usyk, he can't outbox him, and he can't outwork him << All FACTS

    Usyk is faster of both hand and foot than Clenelo

    Is more skillful

    More versatile

    Is much more athletic and agile

    Is much lighter on his feet

    Has much better footwork

    He can move in and out of range effortlessly with the grace of a ballerina

    Concreto Feet Clenelo is slow-footed plodder

    Usyk has much better stamina

    And unlike that bum Plant he can box and move for the full 12 rounds no problem whatsoever whilst throwing close to 1000 punches

    Usyk obviously hits harder and has dropped and stopped 277lb HWs

    Both have iron chins but Usyk's is iron against murderous punching HWs and CWs and he's probably fought more legit KO artists and bangers in 18 fights than Clen has in 60 and he's fought a ton of punchers in the amateur and WSB too

    Clenelo's is tested at 168 and 175 against who exactly?

    He fought GGG who obviously hits very hard down at 160 but he was well past his best and Clen would've had a significant weight advantage on him in both their fights too

    Kovalev was a mere shell of himself and his once fearsome power and punch resistance had deserted him. The only fighter he dropped and stopped via power in his previous six fights was the always chinny Slava Shabranskyy and the Yarde KO was due to exhaustion. Prime Krusher wielded terrifying power in his mitts for goodness sake

    And on top of that he weighed about the same as Clen and, as said, bizarrely threw pity pats all night which was plain to see :facepalm:

    Clenelo pooped his pants the only time Kovalev put some mustard on one of his rights and it wasn't a full power savage Krusher right hand of old like the ones that sounded like a gunshot. If he'd fought a prime Kovalev and eating thunderous shots from him then we could say he's taken shots from a savage punching LHW but Kovelev still doesn't hit harder than murderous punching CWs and HWs like Usyk has fought


    BJS 2.0 and Caleb Plant?

    Rocky Fielding?

    The hardest puncher he's fought above 160 who was actually throwing full power shots is Callum Smith. You think Smith hits anywhere near as hard as Usyk, let alone Gassiev, AJ, Briedis, Chisora, Glowacki, Bellew, Huck, Hunter to name but a few :facepalm:

    Clenelo is the poster boy for corruption in the sport and has the most stacked deck in the game, Usyk is the complete antithesis of that

    One fights on the most stacked deck in the game, has the judges in his pocket everytime he fights, and only has to make it to the final bell to get his hand raised and can only lose via stoppage or KO, the other fights his opponents in their backyards every single time bar one since moving up to the world level on a deck stacked against him

    Even the 200-220lb Usyk is far more athletically gifted, agile, faster and much more versatile than a 170-180lb Clenelo and has way better stamina and is iron-jawed and is every bit as tough P4P as him.

    The only department Clen has on Usyk P4P is power and that's only because he's a walking PED factory

    ''But but Clenelo started out at 140''

    Senor Dopey, please switch your brain to ON before engaging it :facepalm:

    He turned pro at 15 y/o, Usyk didn't even walk into a boxing gym until he was 15 and was a MW at 19, which is 165 in the ams same day weigh ins. Clen weighed 165 in the ring at 19. And Usyk turned pro two months before his 27 birthday :facepalm:

    Look how much Usyk has achieved in half the amount of time Clen has been a pro and just 18 pro outings and he had 11 months out after Bellew, a whole year after his next fight after that, and 11 months after that one

    If he turned pro in his teens or early 20s and had weight divisions every 7lbs to conquer he would be a 10 division champion

    And Clenelo has the pick and choosing of who he fights because he had that ready-made Mexican fanbase behind him from the get-go because Mexicans love their boxing and everyone is lining up to face him because they want that ''payday..pay day.. pay day''

    The fact that he's been allowed to waltz straight into a WBC world title fight at CW two divisions North of SMW without having to fight a single CW or ever holding a WBC title at LHW let alone CW and the champion Makabu who had agreed to fight his mandatory Mchunu who has been left out in the cold jumped at the chance to fight him tells you all you need to know. Meanwhile Dillian Whyte has to wait 1000 years for his shot at the title. Mauricio ''I plead with you VADA.. Clenelo is wholly innocent of taking PEDs'' is clearly in the bag

    This is the same WBC who literally gifted Clen the vacant WBC LMW title after pairing him up with career 147 pounder Matthew Hatton for it and who threw in the vacant WBC 168 title for him to win against Callum Smith who should not have even defending his own belt let alone contesting two after getting his ass paddled in his previous fight by Juan Ryder only for the judges to pull a Clenelo's judges and rob Ryder blind :facepalm:

    Euthanized

    /thread

    Serge destroys
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    weight bully.... you gotta be the most clueless poster here. Suckin off Canelo, then accusing OTHER fighters of being a weight bully.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk is superior to everybody Canelo has fought in every department except speed.
     
  5. Tomatron

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  6. Moonlight

    Moonlight Walking in the moonlight... lonely.. as always.. Full Member

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    Lmfao.

    There are two (!) p4p kings here and one of them is at his best weight and other started his career as 140 lbs. And, people try to make fun of the smaller fighter cause other p4p king (!) beats him here.

    Even Usyk fanboys know the truth.. These iditoic threads expose the huge margin between Canelo and others.
     
  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo was 15 when he was 140... and fighting scrubs.
     
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  8. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wouldn't even be close.

    Canelo would have a better chance of beating an even bigger, less skillful heavyweight. Usyk is a horrible match up for him. It'd be a massacre.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Canelo not good enough to beat high level boxers that outweigh him like that. Bivol beats him easy. Same with Usyk.
     
  10. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if they were the same size, Usyk would still be the better boxer, especially in Cruiserweight...
     
  11. BCS8

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    Canelo could beat him at 176lb
     
  12. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't forget Drenlou who loves gargling on gingers nut's. If these losers are actually adults then it will one of the most pathetic things I have ever witnessed. Grown men fawning over another man it's embarrassing. Also demonstrates the effects of plastics on hormones. Estrogen metabolism is a thing.
     
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  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is more skilled than Canelo and doesn't need to stack everything in order to beat someone. Also Usyk was a proper cruiser not a light heavy/cruiser hybrid like Makabu. Oh and common opponent is Bellew who got sparked by one and rinsed the other in 3.

    Troll thread but Usyk every day of the year.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We got a real tough guy on our hands don't we, a tough guy astronaut. That's some big boy talk right there, maybe it's time for you to jump back into that rocketship and blast off into outer space.
     
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  15. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    I dont even know who tf you are space boy.
     
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