Floyd’s destruction of Diego Corrales is an excellent example of how to defeat a truly great fighter in a perceived 50:50 fight. Luke Campbell is a good contender not a champion there is a difference. As the saying goes God made nothing perfect except for Floyd’s boxing record. There are some guys in history you could argue that were as good or better than Floyd like Peak Duran but Loma is not one of them. Honestly it’s not even debatable. You think Loma would have stood a chance against Duran, Chavez, Pacquiao, Azumah Nelson, Pernell Whittaker, Arguello and the like? Really? I have even had people on this forum asking me what I have against Eastern European fighters forgetting that I have said Usyk deserves to be regarded as pound for pound number 1 alongside Bud.
Floyd always struggled against slickness and you can count on one hand the amount of times (probably a few fingers) he was at a reach disadvantage during his career, whereas Loma has been at a reach disadvantage in almost all his fights and a significant one at that for many of them, like most of the time. IIRC, the only time he had a reach advantage, and it was only a small one, he looked a million dollars schooling the crap out of GRJ in his backyard and Loma was only a 2 fight novice then. How many times was Floyd giving away 4-6'' inches in reach in his 50 fights? Loma was giving away almost 8'' against Walters for goodness sake. Floyd, as many do, had a slickness aversion. Hence why he fought so many big, slow heavier plodders who it's easier to bamboozle with your speed and slickness, especially if you also have a reach advantage to keep them at bay. Emanuel Augustus (''my hardest fight''), Zab, and Sugar ''Money'' Mac all caused him fits with their speed and slickness and slickster Paul Spadaforda literally took him to slick school and boxed his ears off in the gym (and I'm not interested in any of these pathetic excuses about ''gym rat'' Floyd being ''out of shape'') This is not a coincidence. When Floyd was faced with a smaller quick super slick southpaw boxer in Spadaforda (who FTR was actually a heroin addict albeit I can't confirm he was strung out on heroin during that particular schooling even though he did look high as a kite) who could match him for speed he couldn't deal with at all. He was presented with an entirely different set of problems than he was used to than he was by all those big slow plodders he forged a career out of UD'ing in his home country and the only answer he could muster was to refuse to allow outside cameras in his gym for the next 10-15 years or however long it was. And when faced with world class fighters who could match him for reach or who had the reach advantage over him he struggled badly. Judah, an inactive way past prime Oscar, Sugar ''Money'' Mac etc. Again not a coincidence. He was badly hurt by Chop Chop Corley for goodness sake and a PED free Shane whose gas tanks mysteriously ran completely dry after three rounds when he wasn't on his EPO, The Clear, The Cream and the rest of his enhancements came within a whisker of sparking him out with a couple of right hands. Don't get me wrong, Floyd was a fantastic fighter and a fight between him and the incredibly skilled and talented Loma would be a mouthwatering clash of slickness, but please let's be fair here gentleman and not act like a magician as sublimely talented, skillful, unique, and technical as Loma wouldn't be capable of causing Floyd major problems at the very least or pretend like Floyd didn't struggle with slickness, wasn't badly hurt numerous times, was very rarely at a reach disadvantage, and didn't fight at home throughout his entire boxing career.
In their first fight, Mayweather beat Maidana on all three judges scorecards. 27 out of 28 boxing journalists at ringside had Mayweather winning and the 28th scored it a draw. I had Maywether winning and I was cheering for Maidana to bring the upset. So, while Maidana put in a very spirited performance and did better than most who face Mayweather, he still lost. No arguably about it. And as for Corales, he was dismantled and utterly destroyed getting knocked down multiple times and finally stopped in the tenth round.
Floyd and Spadfora never fought and sparring don’t count. A major difference between Floyd and Loma is that if Floyd encountered problems in a fight he worked it and solved it and won. Loma is a great fighter but he could not beat Teo and Salido. You think Floyd would have lost to either ?
Who did Floyd fight in his second pro fight? Name someone as skilled, fast, explosive, athletically gifted as Teo, with one shot KO power in both hands who was not only way bigger and heavier than him but who also had a 3'' reach advantage on him that Floyd fought? And whilst injured too
Floyd though an Olympic silver medalist did not have 400 amateur bouts like Loma and Rigondeaux 2 time Olympic Gold medal winners. I do know Floyd beat guys when he was injured but would not make excuses if he lost. It’s been said before and I will say it again “After every defeat there is an injury”. Loma is good he’ll he is even great but compared to Floyd, Loma ain’t ****. Not disrespectful just the truth.
To be fair he lost to Salido in his second fight for a belt. Who did Floyd fight in his second fight? exactly. His fight with Teo was a tactical error conceding too many early rounds it was still close though and Teo hasn't been keen on a rematch. I think it would be a great fight at 130 as Floyd was more offensive at that weight but he always had some advantages and as others have mentioned. I think Loma poses some problems that Floyd would not be confortable with.
Amateur and pros are different It takes time to adjust from one to the other, regardless of how many hundreds of amateur bouts they had or how great they were, no one in the history of the sport has come out of the gate taking risks like Loma or achieved what he has achieved in so few fights and he deserves enormous credit for doing so. And no one is facing reigning world champions who have 11lbs on them and who are allowed to foul the crap out of them all night by the most corrupt ref in the game in their second pro fight, a fight which Loma would've and should've won had the ref not been in the bag. Had that snake Cole deducted just one point the fight would've been a draw, and at the very least Salido should've incurred multiple deductions. You didn't give me a name Olu In the amateurs Floyd lost 9 times in 93 fights, Loma lost once in 397
I think Teo took those rounds his speed and power put Loma in a box combined with his solid boxing ability. Saying he gave up to many rounds is discrediting Teo’s efforts because he took them without to much difficulty. Floyd biggest advantage is simply he was better than his opponents and he is better than Loma.
I don’t have to give you a name because Floyd was not stupid to have a world title fight in his 2nd fight. When he fought for a world title within 18 months of turning pro he was ready. Awards are not handed out for participation so if Loma was stupid to enough to fight a reigning world champion in his 2nd pro fight that’s on him and was stupid. I know you love Loma but blaming the referee is just a weak argument. One things is clear Loma may be one of the greatest amateurs ever but compared to Floyd as a pro Loma ain’t ****.
Losing to the likes of Salido and Lopez disqualifies Loma from being compared to Floyd. Accomplished inside f "Floyd Mayweather Jr arguably lost to Corrales" We have now officially crossed into the Twilight Zone.
If someone best win is supposedly Luke Campbell you know they are losing the argument. I think the only time Floyd lost to Corrales was in some strange dream.
