Prime Mayweather vs Hagler of the SRL fight?

Floyd would be MORE than fine at the lower weights!

 

For me, it comes down to the same thing as a fight against Marvin:

Realistically, how confident and how offensive minded would Floyd have been?

We’re talking about a careful businessman who had hand issues at the higher weights.

We’re talking about a guy who never weighed above 151 pounds in his life.

A guy who only fought 3 times at JMW.

Facing off against a true ATG, who was bigger, stronger, more powerful, and who was Floyd’s equal in terms of skills and speed.

A guy who’d have had zero respect for his power.

A guy who if he was coming unstuck in a chess match, could always use his confidence, heart and power, in order to turn the bout into a fight.

I respect your opinion, but IMHO, Floyd’s done nothing in his career to have been given even a reasonable chance of beating a guy like Ray, especially a 160 pound version.

Floyd could give up size and power to many opponents, as he always had advantages in his elite level skills and his speed to swing things back in his favour.

He had a reach advantage over almost every one of his opponents. He had a huge reach for a guy of 5’8, fighting in the lower weight classes.

Against Ray, he’d not have held onto those same advantages.

Not only would he have been giving up physical advantages, again, Ray was equally as skilled and equally as fast.

The only advantage that Floyd would have had, was that he’d have possessed a better defence. But possessing a better defence wouldn’t have been enough to have given him a realistic chance of winning.

 

I wholeheartedly agree.

When it comes to having confidence, never go with anyone sporting 15 titles

I think it's refreshing to put more confidence in someone with 7 fights and no championship experience

 

Exactly.

So what would have worried Ray?

Ray had fought and beat other ATG’s.

Not ones specifically like Floyd, but ATG’s nonetheless.

Again, If Ray found himself in a position where he was getting outboxed, he always had a plan B, where he could turn a chess match into a fight.

Then what could Floyd have done in that position?

Would a JMW-MW version of Floyd really have had a shootout against Ray Leonard?

How likely would that have been?

 

Oh, we’re talking to each other now are we?

Lovely.

We can continue the debate then.

Canelo stood off of Floyd and showed him far too much respect. He never pressed or pressured him like Oscar did, even though Oscar wasn’t a pressure fighter. If you let Floyd get into a groove, you’re toast.

It was Floyd’s speed that bothered Canelo the most. Immense speed coming from a 72” reach.

Canelo seemed terrified of getting countered.

Floyd didn’t throw many power punches.

He only had respectable power, and he had bad hands.

Floyd’s power certainly didn’t enable him to win every fight.

 

Floyd was harder to hit than Leonard.

 

You can use sarcasm.

If you could refute what I’d written, then you would have done.

You are the guy who thinks that Floyd WOULD have fought Hagler at MW, despite the FACT that he WOULDN’T fight a prime Manny, Winky, or Canelo at 154.

Like I said to you yesterday, it would be as likely and as logical, as a guy who was afraid of water suddenly deciding that he was going shark diving.

 

He was.

He had a better defence.

That wouldn’t have won him the fight though would it?

How would he have won the majority of the rounds?

Ray was his equal in speed, skills and reach.

What would Floyd have done if Ray had fought aggressively? He could have used his great defence, but then that would have negated his own offence.

So what would have been his road to victory?

We both know that he wouldn’t have had a shootout with Ray.

 

Oh I see. Marquez must have slipped to the canvas

 

The same road taken by Terry Norris

Norris came up with the right blueprint to convincingly beat Ray Leonard

was Floyd capable of carrying it out?

As my good friend John Thomas would say, "Yep"

 

I was the fight last night while you were typing essays and hitting the return button twice after each sentence.

Everybody Floyd fought respected his power and everyone he fought respected his physical strength. A bunch of his opponents have commented about how strong he is.

He wouldve been Stevie Johnston if he had no power or was physically weak.

 

Ray was just a competent boxer like Errol Spence is now, all he had was great athleticism.

 

Norris as more of a offensive threat at 154 than Floyd who rarely threw combo`s v Canelo, Norris was a better combination puncher than Floyd and had the power to drop Ray while Floyd didn`t have that kind of power.

 

Leonard's offence was vastly superior to Floyd's.

 

No, all he really had was great hand speed, he had a decent offense, he missed far too many punches.