Prime Mayweather vs Hagler of the SRL fight?

Coming from you

 

Do you seriously think Mayweather would have the offensive skills to stop Hearns and Kaule?

Leonard's combination punching would give Mayweather fits. His jab would have also given him issues.

 

A prime SFW?

Awesome.

Floyd’s power didn’t enable him to win ALL of his fights.

He only had respectable power at the higher weights.

At JMW and MW, vs ATG fighters, he’d have had none.

 

Weird that he did in fact show power against two lineal middleweight champions who are HOF locks.

 

Except that Norris was a career JMW, who was very offensive and who was much more powerful than what Floyd was.

A guy who had a completely different style, who was fighting a faded version of Ray.

Oh I forgot, I can’t mention that though can I? Seeing as you’re they guy who doesn’t think that Ray was shot even against Macho, at 41, with 6 years of inactivity.

 

If I take you at your word and you did go last night, then your opinions on this thread are even more bizarre.

You’re a hardcore boxing fan who watches live fights, yet you clearly don’t know what you’re looking at.

On this thread as well as others, you’ve said the most bizarre things.

Again, Floyd only had respectable power at the higher weights.

None of the ATG’s at JMW-MW would have had any respected for it.

It wouldn’t have fazed guys like SRL and Hagler.

At the lower weights, sure. He was just a different fighter with his ‘PBF’ monicker. But in the second half of his career when he had his ‘Money’ monicker, he was a safety first fighter with hand issues.

 

You need more than just athleticism to execute the kind shots that Ray used.

He was a highly skilled offensive fighter.

He had equal offensive skills and equal speed to Floyd.

He also had more strength and power.

 

Exactly.

Which is why I don’t understand why you’d have favoured Floyd over Ray at 160.

Like Norris, Ray also:

Was more offensive than Floyd.

Was a better combination puncher than Floyd.

Possessed more firepower than Floyd.

 

A decent offense?

No.

Ray had a great offense.

Go and look at some of his knockouts.

He threw great combinations and he used great variation.

Floyd was the guy who was economical with his shots up at the higher weights.

He put in a masterclass against Gatti, but in the majority of his WW and JMW fights he fought cautiously.

 

Dude, you are trying to reason with a guy who once praised Mayweather's power based on his knockout of Victor Ortiz.

 

He wouldn't be able to hurt him? How do you figure? I'm sure Hagler wouldnt have the same respect for Mays power the way he did for SRL and would try to be more agressive against May

 

There's fantasy and reality. Two lineal 160 champs and a former 160 titlist all respected Floyd's power and lost to him. That's reality.

 

You do make me laugh.

Your posts are always highly amusing, I’ll give you that.

Two lineal MW’s?

Canelo at 152 pounds?

Cotto at 154 pounds?

Cotto took advantage of a faded Martinez who had bad knees, before he then retired. He then fought Canelo at Canelo-weight, before never being seen in the division again.

You just love those stats don’t you.

Cotto was never a MW.

You know that.

So let’s stop pretending that Floyd showed power against a lineal MW, when the guy in question was a WW who’d moved up to JMW in the second half of his career.

Regarding Canelo, Floyd beat him with hand speed and great footwork, not by using power.

The lengths you’ll go to are extraordinary.

Floyd had no power at JMW-MW, against genuine JMW-MW guys.

Guys like Ray and Marvin wouldn’t have had an ounce of respect for his power.

He hardly had any knockouts at the higher weights, he fought cautiously in most of his fights and he had to have injections in his hands as they troubled him.

You’re too much.

 

Ha!

I forgot about that knockout.

A free shot that added to his awesome knockout percentage.

 

Canelo and Cotto were also not in their primes when Mayweather beat them.

Mayweather's performance against Cotto was nothing special.

Canelo was also nothing special in 2013.