When it comes to Spence Vs Crawford, I'm undecided. I really don't know who's number one at WW.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxingIQ, Nov 29, 2021.

  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Messages:
    2,053
    Likes Received:
    948
    Over the past few days, I've watched pretty much all of Crawford and Spence's fights, and my conclusion is pretty much 50/50. Here's the thing, both are great but both are extremely flawed.

    Crawford

    Pros:

    • Great switch hitter; Outside of Ennis and Ward in the past), I can't name a boxer whose a better switch hitter than Crawford.
    • Great counter puncher (at least top 3, Canelo, Ennis, and Maybe Usky have an argument over him): Crawford is a great counter-puncher. Outside of Canelo and Maybe Jermall, I can't name a better counter puncher.
    • Top 3 finisher outside of Canelo and GGG: When Crawford has you hurt, you're pretty much finished.
    • Decent Jab: What can I say more.
    • Great at making adjustments. It takes a few rounds, but once Crawford has the adjustments down pact, you're ****ed. Expect to get countered the rest of the night.
    • Timing is exceptional: I can't say anything less.
    Cons:
    • Leaky defense: Crawford gets way too much. When he switches Southpaw, it is fairly easy to counter him (See Gamboa, Mean Machine, and Porter)
    • Doesn't seem to handle pressure very well: I had Porter up until the knockdown. Crawford and Porter showed me that Crawford isn't a great defensive fight, and if you pressure him, you can break him down and make it uncomfortable.
    • Has not faced a true puncher since Gamboa: His chin is questionable. Gamboa and Mean Machine showed us that his chin is not that strong. Since the Gamboa fight, he has not faced a puncher. I truly believe if he faces a puncher like Ennis, Ortiz Jr, or Spence, he could get hurt and finish pretty fast.
    • Competition: His resume is pretty lackluster for a P4P great. I honestly don't know how he would do against Spence, Ortiz Jr. Prime Kell Brook, Prime Keith Thurman, or even Ennis. I have yet to see Crawford is a 50/50 fight. Every fight he has been in, he has been the favorite.

    Spence

    Pros:

    • Best Jab At WW: Outside of Ortiz Jr, I honestly think Spence has the best Jab. He does a tremendous job setting up his shots with the jab.
    • Cutting off the ring: Outside of GGG, Spence does the best job of cutting off the ring.
    • Inside Fighting: Best inside fighter in the game. Spence does a tremendous job going to the job and making his opponent fight his fight.
    • Adjustments. As mentioned before, Spence does a tremendous job making fighters fight his fight (see Porter, Brook, and Garcia). To beat Spence you have to fight him, there's no way around it.
    Cons:
    • Can be outboxed: Someone with tremendous movement and size can outbox Apence. He is a straightforward fighter and is there to be hit.
    • Leaky Defense/Lacks head movement: A great counterpunch could counter Spence all night. This is why I favor Ennis t beat Spence.

    As you can see, both Spence and Crawford are tremendous fighters but they are far from perfect. With the ascension of Ennis and Ortiz Jr, I am unsure if Spence and Crawford are truly the best in the division. Crawford/Ortiz Jr is a 50/50 fight, as Spence/Ennis is 50/50. I have yet to see Crawford in the ring with a puncher (Ortiz Jr is arguably the hardest puncher at WW), and I have yet to see Spence in the ring with a skilled boxer-puncher(Ennis is just as strong, more technical/skilled, hits just as hard, better foot.work/ movement, better defense, and better counterpunch).

    Just thinking about it, I honestly don't know who will win in a potential matchup between Spence and Crawford. Spence has yet to fight someone with the counterpunching and movement of Crawford, yet Crawford has yet to fight a Puncher and pressure fighter like Spence who also has a decent jab.

    And to be honest, I don't know if either one is the the best WW in the division. I believe Ortiz Jr and Ennis would be 50/50 against either one. Thoughts??
     
    Perkin Warbeck likes this.
  2. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,725
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    I have Crawford all day every day if they ever fight
     
    Greg Price99, MagicE, chacal and 2 others like this.
  3. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,725
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    One of my favorite fighters. His resume sucketh atm but beating Porter was a step in the right direction.
     
    gollumsluvslave likes this.
  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    8,369
    Likes Received:
    6,916
    That's a clever Ennis appreciation thread but the kid hasn't done anything to be praised so highly. If I start seeing people placing him on p4p lists as soon as he beats a single champion like they did Spence I'm probably going to spam Ennis hate threads in spite.
     
    Salty Dog, Manfred, DaRealJT and 7 others like this.
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2019
    Messages:
    16,514
    Likes Received:
    18,128
    Spence ducked an ancient boxing artifact in Pacquiao.
     
  6. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    1,110
    Likes Received:
    1,692
    Crawford is more of a bad mamba jamba than Spence is a super freak.
     
  7. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2021
    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    504
    Id rather see taylor vs crawford at this point! I got my money on taylor but not by much either!
     
  8. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Messages:
    22,407
    Likes Received:
    6,207
    One guy parties and drives 150 mph drunk vs a dude who lives the spartan life.
    Its a no brainer.
     
    Wizbit1013 and UnleashtheFURY like this.
  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Messages:
    22,407
    Likes Received:
    6,207
    140 or 147 crawford stops taylor
    Taylor needs to rematch prograis in the US. He beats prograis clear he earns the crawford fight. Neither taylor or prograis seperatrd in the first fight.
     
    TheVet and chacal like this.
  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2017
    Messages:
    11,988
    Likes Received:
    26,274
    That's what makes it an exceptionally interesting fight - we don't know for sure who will win.

    Too many mismatches in boxing during the past few years, especially on Top Rank cards, have hurt the sport.
     
  11. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2021
    Messages:
    617
    Likes Received:
    763
    Spence is the best one eyed welterweight in the world.
     
  12. Raybans

    Raybans Pro Gamboa Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,319
    Likes Received:
    74
    I’d pick Crawford to win but with not with a lot of confidence. Spence could end up putting too much pressure on him to handle using his size advantage. Great fight. Has to happen in 2022.
     
    The Real Lance likes this.
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    8,992
    Likes Received:
    10,320
    Kind of how I see. Cannot count out Spence at all.
     
  14. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2021
    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    504
    im wont be mad with a taylor prograis 2. I had Taylor 115-114 in what was a great fight!
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Messages:
    53,088
    Likes Received:
    6,685
    Spence has the better 147 resume.

    I favor him if they fought but not by any gulf. Essentially on paper its a pick 'em fight.