They absolutely would be ranked just maybe not as heavyweights. Although Layne could have made the jump. Layne and Lastarza I’d favor over shavers. You’re really gonna argue that was a prime Norton and not shop worn?
I voted for Marciano. I've trained and had gym wars and army fights, but no professional fights, and no out of service amateur fights. So I voted as someone without one fight.
I think if you had formal fights (i.e., not just sparring) in the Army, it would probably qualify. I assume the Army has its own parallel amateur system, with its own championship, and that's the system you were competing in?
It's Larry, isn't it? He dances and jabs. Dances, jabs, fires the odd right cross, maybe even an uppercut or two. He might even get cocky and throw a left hook or two. Basically, against a slower, smaller man he does whatever he wants and even if he gets caught, he either ties Rocky up or dances away to clear his head. But I don't see him having a crisis like he did in the Shavers fight. A guy who had to bludgeon shop-worn light heavies into submission over 8 or 9 rounds is not going to one shot Larry Holmes and that would be his only chance as he's not winning a boxing match. Holmes might get vulnerable to the right hand as he tended to only dance clockwise into the path of the right but he could survive a big shot and Rocky, outside of the Walcott blowout, didn't show one punch power. He needed to land a lot of bombs to wear an opponent down. He isn't going to get to do that against a 6'3" mobile genuine heavyweight.
Norton was the number 2 contender fighting for the vacant title,he was several years younger than Moore 8? Walcott 5 Louis 4 Yes or No?
Was he the number 2 contender or was he not? Seven months earlier, ranked no 1 he had beaten the WBC no 2 contender Jimmy Young in an eliminator. Yes or No? In the previous 4 years he had lost only 2 fights, to Ali and Foreman . Yes or No?
I was correcting you on his age, nothing more nothing less. Was he 33 as you stated or was he really 34 and just two months off 35?
No No and No. Norton was 34 almost 35. Enough with the Archie Moore myth. He wasn’t 41 when he fought Marciano he was 38. Making him four maybe even three years older then Norton. He was also on the best streak of his career. Yes or no? Your ages are off on the others.
Archie Moore was born on December 13th 1913 in Benoit. He fought Marciano on 21st of September 1955 That makes him 41 years old ,or if you prefer, less than 2 months off of 42years old.
I have always enjoyed the fact that Holmes only ever had one fight plan (I'm not counting old man Holmes here). Everyone knew what he was going to do, and it still usually worked well. How many hours of just him jabbing did opponents watch in an attempt to learn how not to be hit by it, only to spend fight night getting their head snapped back constantly.
December 13 1916. It’s on his tombstone for Christ sake. His manager admitted the age thing was a hoax to get people talking. He had Archies passport. This isn’t a real conspiracy theory. It’s only used by those who wish to make Archie older when he faced Marciano lol. Archie knew his age you think his wife got his tombstone wrong?
