Is GGG is an all-time top 5 middleweight?

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  1. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cheers MIKE and thank you, yes I get how it goes for some people and these Lists, it is usually however Achievement Based, where Champs are often pitted against Champs, but that is probably the worst sin, in that there have been some 'poor' champs, or 'lucky to be champs'... and then of course, as I said, better overall Era's, which has to be accounted for...

    and yeas you can do it for any weight or all weights, again I mentioned that and I know...

    my Query is Not against you or any other for that matter... it simply just confuses how these kind of List or statements get made so often, when so many factors and of course fighters get side lined, where an Amir Khan might make such lists and be thought of a genuine Historic Great, where as a great Fringe Contender like Vic Foley for example, who had a brilliantly successful career, fought everyone competing well, beating many, yet never see's the light of day, but a Khan or Hatton 'might' or will...

    anyway, you know what I mean, and as I say, there should be a sort of Template, like the breakdown I mentioned, or some sort of accurate all inclusive Historical measures applied to such lists, which is more complimentary to the Great History and Thousands of fighters to the sport.

    Blessings to all of you.
     
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  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The short answer is no. The long answer is also........................... no.
     
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  3. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    Simple answer is No
     
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  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He certainly has the skills to be.
    Rather people view his achievements worthy of top 5 is debatable.
     
  5. Malik Shabazz

    Malik Shabazz Member banned Full Member

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    I'm sure he would give anyone a "tough fight", but how could he be considered a top anything when his two best performances were a disputed win against Danny Jacob's and a disputed loss against Canelo?
    He never even faced charlo or Andrade.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Neither Charlo or Andrade would stand any chance v any of the top 5 middles of all-time, they are not elite fighters.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    La Motta was not a big puncher.
     
  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, but head to head he’s a fight for any of them.
    There just weren’t any elite fighters around at middleweight because could have fought.
     
  10. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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  11. Malik Shabazz

    Malik Shabazz Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, so GG has no excuse for ducking them.
    Even with the Canelo controversy he still could have cleaned put his division and laid claim to his greatness.
    But he chose not to.

    I wouldn't even rate GG above Keith Holmes or Willial Joppy at this point.
     
  12. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's why I said he has the chin to MATCH Lamotta
     
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  13. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No ,nor a top ten one.
     
  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So would Bennie Briscoe ,does he belong in the top ten?
     
  15. Cookiedough

    Cookiedough Active Member Full Member

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    Without doubt. GGG is a match for any fighter of any era. His record speaks for it self. An all time great.