Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Apr 12, 2019.


Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

  1. Tommy by KO

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  2. Tommy by Dec.

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    0.8%
  3. Joe by KO

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    83.1%
  4. Joe by Dec.

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    0.8%
  1. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    This has almost nothing to do with "advances", just style make fights and some of the 1970's guys would impose their styles on most of the 1930's competitors, same thing can be said about the 1990's heavyweights. MOST of them (not ALL of them in case you didn't catch my meaning) would be favored over Joe Louis' opposition, though almost none of them would be favored over Joe Louis himself, and certainely not Tommy because he does not have the style needed to beatdown the brown bomber.
     
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  2. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMHO: If Tommy came out firing, Joe would counter and drop him rather quickly. Tommy was very open to good counter punches with power. If Tommy came out walking around the ring, and using his shoulder for defense, as he did with Foreman, Joe would hunt him down and drop him, but it might take a little longer. And every time Tommy fired something heavy at Joe: Again, he'd get countered...painfully.
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Tommy is not in Rocky 5, that was a fictional movie, but I do love explanation, Lol.
     
  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You lost me there, my friend. I made it to 97 years old, but I didn't bring all of my brain cells along for the ride. Some are scattered here and there across 3 continents. I doubt if I could locate those missing brain pieces at this point. :p
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Morrison was floored by Williams and looked sluggish in that bout, he also looked slow v Hipp, he ws nowherre near Joe`s level and would have been easily out-classed as he had no head movement.
     
  6. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    no it does cause it wouldnt be a style problem which is a flawed quote cause all matches are not won cause of style only and the whole skill level advanced do I need to show video

    none would be picked over joe so your stuck the

    no way would a person seeing Frazier ron ali razor George tom and mutiple others not pick these dudes for a fact to beat louis a man known to have trouble with the people he had trouble with vs the people they had trouble with makes what you said a joke

    it is funny
     
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  7. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here you go again. You and your head movement. I'll give you head movement.
     
  8. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glad your username isn't 'Movement'.
     
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Should people 50 years from now ignore the forum posts you've just written in this thread? Will all of your posts about Tommy Morrison beating Joe Louis suddenly become "outdated" and possibly "lies" because 50 years passed since you wrote them?
     
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  11. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    no cause my post wont be outdated or lies and people dont are not brainwashed into just believing it just cause im in the sport directly like im more then a person who cant be wrong and using a quote that people have no way to tell if it is a lie or bias
     
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  12. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    I swear to you that the only part of your post i understood was the one where you basically said that styles are no real factor in a fight. Which is really wrong....again.
    And what about this?
    What does that mean?
     
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  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'm really, genuinely confused.

    You've said that quotes from knowledgeable, good fighters like Patterson, Holmes, and others are either "outdated," "biased," or possible "lies." I asked you whether the stuff you say will also be outdated, biased, or lies in 50 years. You say no.

    I ask you what is different between your statements and the statements of great fighters. Your reply is that your statements are immune from being biased/lies/outdated because you're "in the sport directly" and because people aren't "brainwashed into believing you."

    How are you, an internet poster, "in the sport directly" more than actual heavyweight champs were? Why will their quotes get outdated, but yours won't? What makes you immune from bias, but Larry Holmes and Floyd Patterson not?

    You also claim that we are all "brainwashed into believing" Holmes or Patterson. But even if that's true, that wouldn't make them always wrong. It also wouldn't make you right. You're basically saying that Patterson and Holmes are wrong because they're experts. And that you're right because people disagree with you. That makes absolutely no sense to me.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tell that to Ronda Rousey.
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Louis hurts him early and does a Mercer number on him.
     
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