Lomachenko: Davis Is Not A Great Fighter; Floyd Protects Him From Top Guys...

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  1. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably have made Manny a bit frustrated , then Manny would bang his gloves together , breathe in head down & take him apart....maybe, this fence is really splintery...
     
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    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I don't think Pac would be uncomfortable at any point. I think Pac comprehensively destroys Lomachenko. Pac would counter the **** out of Lomachenko, brutalize him if they traded, or he can hunt him down. If you thought Lomachenko was apprehensive about Teofimo's power, now he's dealing with elite speed, volume, and firework to go with great power.
     
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    I think your deification of the lovely Manny is commendable , I also thought my last sentence may have gave an inkling my comments were firmly tongue in cheek ... Maybe your not very good at separating liking ppl from them being any good at their job ?...
     
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  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Huh? Wasn't arguing with you at all. Just stating that Pac would have an easy night with Lomachenko, imo. Pac has hurt full fledged welterweights. There's no way Lomachenko withstands more than a few flush shots.
     
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  5. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I'm not disgreeing on the outcome, just the passage to it...
     
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  6. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know. Stylistically speaking Lomachenko should have been able to give Pacquiao more than a few problems with his feet and lateral movement. His lack of power might cost him though. Pacquiao looked lost whenever a good boxer showed him lateral movement and he never knew how to corner his opponent.

    There is nothing to suggest Lopez doesn't hit as hard as Pacquiao.
     
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  7. iii

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    Nice summary...although there nothing to suggest Lopez carries the dynamite that Manny does....not to mention heart , integrity...oops I'm off ;)...
     
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  8. JOKER

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    Lomachenko's a high volume aggressive offensive fighter, a style that Pac not only loves, but favors him.

    Lomachenko's able to flummox lead footed guys with footwork, just like Pac. But Pac is faster on his feet, more awkward, and closes distance very quickly with the speed of a striking viper.

    I was shocked that Lopez was able to repeatedly hit Lomachenko to the body in the early rounds when Lomachenko wasn't doing much and just evading. And these were basic, slow, straight shots. I don't see Pacquiao not connecting on an retreating Lomachenko and not hurting him. Pac's not known as a body puncher, but when he goes down, it's incredibly painful and effective. He crushed Margarito's rib and set him up for the uppercut that broke his eye socket. He folded Broner in half with a body shot and credit for Broner to stay standing.

    If nothing else, Lomachenko turning down the fight after proposing different weights and saying a victory over Pac does nothing for his legacy should tell you all you need to know.

    Pac knocks Lomachenko down multiple times before finishing him. That or Lomachenko's corner throws in the towel.

    And... Do you think Nakatani or KamBOSSos would win a single round or survive Pac? Of course Pac is a bigger puncher.
     
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  9. Braindamage

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    Tank has a very good upside and potential through the roof but, at the end of the day, it's who you beat that determines greatest.
     
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  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Davis was definitely losing. Leo was lighting him up, but he had no power.
     
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  11. CleneloAnavarez

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    Those who have faced Pacquiao remark that it is not the thump in his blows but the unexpected way in which they land that really hurts. Lopez punching harder than Pacquiao is not so strange.
    Why so you believe Lomachenko will fight Pacquiao like that?
    Was he supposed to caompaign above 135 after fighting (win or lose) Pacquiao? He definitely didn't think it would be easy as many Loma fans thought but it could simply show his risk averse nature. If a fight is 60-40 against you, then to many it makes sense not to take it.
    I don't really know. Lomachenko hasn't been badly hurt or stopped so that is nto a prediction I am willing to make.
    Nakatani, no. Kambosos, yes.
     
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  12. iii

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    Hmm tbh this "hearsay" does not forward the discussion on who hits harder...as speculative posts rarely do...so we'll agree to disagree...
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

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    He's right. Loma >> Tank, by an even wider margin than PBF > Loma.
     
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  14. CleneloAnavarez

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    Unless you put them in a lab everything is hearsay. Kambosos has fought him a lot and that is exactly what he said.
     
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    Ah, the Conor Benn marketing scheme.
     
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