Carlos Monzon Vs Hearns - Is This The Worst, Fight At Middle For Tommy?

Why? When did Monzon blow anyone out whom was world class? It wasn't who he was in the ring. He didn't blow out well past their primes natural welterweights like Napoles and Griffith out, it's very doubtful he blows out Hearns.
If anything, it's the opposite that would be true, Hearns has many one shot ko's over fighters that were said to have great chins. He pole axed very big Middleweights in Shuler, Roldan, and Andreies.
If anyone would get blown out, it would be Monzon if reasoning is important.
His approach would be very cautious against Hearns. Get him past 10rds.

 

Styles make fights ,, and this is a fight that Hearns would prefer up against another masterful jab cross rangy fighter at a bit slower pace than a give one take 1 as in Hagler and Barkley.. The only chance Hearns has is to sit back and pick his shots .. But in reality Hearns just wasnt this great middle some make him out to be ... His legs werent all there at times at this weight as he just wasnt a strong middle compared to some others ... Monzon was strong and had an engine that didnt quit . .He would wear Hearns down and stop in the 10th .. Hearns dosent have the strength, chin and the gas in the tank to go with Monzon at 160 .. and thats a fact Jack

 

thats pretty much it .. Monzon would take what Hearns had to give . .He was never stopped and only down twice in his career and took an absolute bomb from Valdez and got right back up ... and that shot he takes against Briscoe might have KO'd Hearns ,, When Hearns went against most stronger fighters there at 160, they took what he had to give ... Hagler, Barkley Sutherland .. Thats where Hearns had a lot of his rt hand problems as well. Broke it against Hagler, Folded it against Sutherland , , Monzon too strong for Hearns

 

Hearns early or Monzon late

I actually believe that Tommy is a nightmare for Monzon

Hagler only MADE it look easy and in the subconscious of some, people are thinking that taking Tommy is not such a big feat

If Monzon can survive the blitzkreig of blows, I'd favor him

But Monzon was not an inside fighter

Hearns easily matched him in height and reach

had a more powerful right hand

sharper

faster

and the much better body puncher

He could hurt Carlos with the kind of body blows that had Barkley bending over, then once his guard comes doen, Tommy connects and knocks him out

 

Monzon wasn't an in fighter. Hagler could do both but Monzon's game was boxing, not slugging

I never saw him slug, only box and against Tommy, Monzon would be at a disadvantage because Tommy was so much faster and sharper.

 

Hearns takes a decision.

 

LOL !!! Didnt work out that way against Hagler or Barkley, both bombed out Hearns ,, why Monzon?? He took some big punches and was never stopped ... Back to the drawing board for you

 

I just don’t remember seeing Hearns get outboxed.

I think he takes a lead over the first 10 rounds — a fight somewhat similar to his fencing match at 175 with Virgil Hill — and then it’s a matter of if his legs hold up if Monzon puts his foot on the gas and gets aggressive.

I’ll take Tommy to weather some rough moments over the last five, maybe losing most of those rounds, but taking a close decision.

 

I see so many posters whom I like and are knowledgeable that just seem to fawn over Carlos Monzon.
Its like some see him as this undeafeatable force that no fighter could stand up against.
His wins over certain fighters like Briscoe and Valdes are seen as some proof of his indestructibility and greatness. Yet Briscoe never won a big fight his entire career , ( The irony is the only big fight he may have won, was against Monzon in Argentina, most who saw the fight Said Briscoe won)
And Valdes a big puncher, in a division that saw many big punchers, who's biggest claim to fame is he dropped Monzon, and is the only fighter that stopped Briscoe.
The only ATG's scalps on Monzon's ledger are two past prime natural welterweights, actually Napoles was more of a natural lightweight.
Monzon was hurt many times in fights , though his butt only touched the canvas twice.
He was nothing like Hagler whom no one seemed to hurt seriously.
Briscoe and Valdes were powerful punchers, no doubt. But being a powerful puncher doesn't make a fighter a ko artist. Hearns brought speed, reach , height, timing , and skills Valdes and Briscoe could only dream of.
So just because Briscoe or Valdes couldn't beat Monzon doesn't automatically include A fighter far better skilled like Hearns from turning the trick.
The most asinine post I've read is the one that have the opnion of Monzon blows Hearns out. Yet he never blew out any world class fighter. Not because he couldn't ( So Monzon fans to jump off the top of the Empire state build) But it wasn't his STYLE..... He never fought that way even against 3rd raters.
Now we're asked to believe he blows Hearns out? Really? Have you actually watched the man fight. It wasn't who he was. He was a methodical, cerebral, puncher that used a reach advantage over damn near all of his opponents to set up his opponents with a strong jab, followed by a very good straight right hand. The advantages he had over damn near all of his opponents he wouldn't have over Hearns, in fact he would be at a disadvantage. How would he handle it? How would he handle a man like Hearns actually staring DOWN at him?
Hearns stopped so many fighters that were considered to have a great chin, it's not even a debate about his ability to stop good fighters all the way up to light heavy.
He has many highlight reel stoppages against good/great fighters.
I believe Monzon had the ability to weather the storm, and eventually grind Hearns down after being on the receiving end of some terrific punishment. But he would probably be behind on the scorecards at the time of him stopping Hearns.
But to blow him out ? Really? Aggression he didn't show against far less dangerous foes yet he suddenly will attack Hearns with reckless abandon and blow him out?

 

Hearns got out boxed BIG TIME at MW,, one by a guy who was 1-4 in MW title fights ,,,, and guess who his only win was ?? Never liked that term out boxed? what does that mean? EVERYTHING in the ring is boxing .. Is it an excuse why Hearns lost? Hearns didnt "box" and throw from the outside in that fight ?? He wasnt hookin to the body and working off that as well? LOL ... IS infighting considered boxing? If you are fighting on the inside and you get knocked out ,, does that mean you didnt get "out boxed" .. Barkley caught Hearns with a lead right from the outside .. You bet your ass he out boxed Tommy ... What did Barkley do at MW other than lose all off his big title fights?? He did one thing at MW, he KO'd Hearns in 3 .. And what did Hearns do at MW?? He lost his 2 biggest fights in 3 rounds.. and now Hearns is on Monzons level at MW ??... GEEZ man .. People are clueless

 

Hearns beat Shuler and DeWitt and Roldan at middle, and that's about it.
Lost to Hagler in 3, lost to Barkley in 3.
Fought Kinchen at 168 pounds and struggled.

Monzon has to be made favourite.

 

I think Carlos softens Hearns up with body shots,and gets him put of there with right cross in the late rounds,Monzon was usually pretty leisurely about breaking a man down,Tommy may be up on the cards at the time of the stoppage though,that's just my guess.

 

Monzon never faced anyone with a sneaky fast right hand

Duran had never been knocked out either, and come to think of it, I never saw him even HURT!

up till the Hearns fight and Tommy at his best, would PROBABLY put the hurt on Monzon, slam him to the ribs to get him to drop his guard

Those body shots would hurt Monzon badly

and Tommy beats him in speed, power, height, AND reach

Not to mention, all of Tommy's shots land cleaner

AND, he is by FAR the better combination puncher

What's monzon going to do???

The only way I see him winning is if he somehow survives the attacks of a young, prime Tommy Hearns, and outlasts him down the stretch.

Still, with all the damage already done to Carlos, he'd already be behind on points so even a points win for him is unlikely

 

Was busting up Kinchen but the only reason Kinchen was able to stand up to the punches and fight back was because he was pumped up with some kind of illegal painkillers so while his face was showing damage, he could hardly feel the force of the punches. Should have been banned for life sfter that.

 

Hearns has a real shot at this. The pace of Monzon would play perfectly into Hearns style. Monzon is not a big swarmer, and Tommy is a excellent boxer. Tommy is faster and great at range and had enough power to keep Monzon off him when he tries to close the distance. The one flaw of Hearns was his lack of ability to adapt, while that is Monzons strength.

This would be an incredible fight, and my bet is Tommy gets a split decision in the first fight, but if this was a trilogy I would say Monzon takes the last two. Each one more convincing then the last.