Gervonta Brown Davis vs. Isaac Jonathan Cruz González - the standalone IB RBR scorecard

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I had Cruz winning as well. Davis looked like he was hurt on a few occasions, hence the running and clinching.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    FWIW, some metadata on environs in the interest of transparency here:

    I watched the first half of the fight on mute, during my family's weekly Zoom (been doing it since Covid started)...but rest assured, my attention was fully on the action, during a period where it was mostly my aunt waxing poetic about the pyramid scheme of beauty products she has been snookered into. :sisi1

    Second half w/ audio, including the Showtime commentary.

    I had Chris' thread open in a separate browser tab, but only allowed myself to click to a new page and read people's scores in the RBR after entering mine for each round to see how close to alignment with the majority it was.
     
  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I had Tank winning. I believe I had the last 2 rounds even. Very little happened. If I give both to Cruz, then it's a draw.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There were only four "swing" rounds IMO - three I gave Cruz and one to Davis. In descending order, closest to least, they were:

    12th (for Cruz, by a split pube)
    8th (for Cruz...he basically lost ~2:30 and then did some major demolition work)
    6th (for Davis, really more of a "close but clear" for me)
    4th (for Cruz, again, wouldn't call it dominant but can't really see giving it to Davis either)

    Shift both of that closest pair Davis' way and you could get to 115-113 for him, no issues there. Zachary Young scoring it 116-112, however, is beyond my comprehension. There were more than four mandatory Cruz rounds. There were five of them, in fact.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh and one more thing - it wasn't even close to being the best "Davis vs. Cruz" of 2021. :deal:

    (Andy Cruz Gómez vs. Keyshawn Davis in the men's gold medal lightweight match in Tokyo >>>>>>>> this, in combined boxing quality and viewing satisfaction. Andy is a better Cruz than Isaac and Keyshawn a better Davis than Gervonta, no cap)
     
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  6. Serge

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    Had Twink edging it the first time I saw it but when I watched it again the next day I had Cruz a winner. The best case scenario for Twink is a draw and that's with him stiff-arming, octopus grabbing and fouling the crap out of Cruz all night which obviously made things twice as difficult for the tiny little oompa loomp with the baby kangaroo reach and prevented him from being able to fight his fight and catch Twink with way more shots than he already did.

    When I watched it the second time I couldn't believe how much of Twink's work was being blocked. Even many of the shots during the heavily biased pro Twink PBC highlight replays in between rounds were blocked and they were obviously supposed to be his best moments, whereas, conversely, Cruz landed the cleaner eye catching shots throughout.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to do it, I had a feeling you'd come to the same conclusion.:D

    While I've never been even remotely sold on Tank, the one thing he had going for him was his power. Not saying he's ever needed to be 100% bailed out by it at least up until recently against Barrios. He's been trending in that direction for quite some time. It should be abundantly clear to most that while still a damn good puncher, his power isn't as impressive at Lightweight as it was down at Super Feather. You could write off a subpar showing once, maybe twice, but then it becomes a pattern. He didn't make weight and looked poor against Fonseca at 130 and struggled to KO him clean, then the Gamboa match should've seen warning bells up big time, there's just no excuse why he needed a gift TKO against that version of Gamboa. The Barrios match, I predicted he'd give him nightmares due to his ranginess and he did for several rounds, but I did see Barrios eat a lot of clean shots and hurt by Cowboy Ryan Karl several times, so I knew he wasn't packing iron. Regardless, if that fight was being scored fairly, Barrios should've only been behind due to the knockdowns at the time of the stoppage. So all of the evidence which has been ample for anyone not wearing love goggles to see, that Tank ain't all that above 130. Hell, he was even being comprehensively dominated by a blown up Feather in LSC before the inevitable happened in his last outing at 130.

    So, considering his power isn't amazing above 130, Cruz does well against southpaws, he destroyed Magdaleno far more easily than Lopez. I've never seen Cruz even remotely hurt and seems hard as ****ing nails, then based off of his showing against Mattice, where his high guard defense was tight, he can be a lot harder to hit clean than most people realized beforehand. Then add in, Davis doesn't like being pushed back at all, and tends to freeze up, like he did against LSC and Pedraza at times. It clicked to me right after they announced the fight, uh oh.... they done ****ed up.:sisi1

    Granted, having a long, good, almost photographic memory of most of the matches I've seen helps. Also, with us, actually seeing these guys fight before their big showings do as well.:sisi1

    I do the same even on live RBR's, I go into a tunnel vision zone and barely even notice the rest of the RBR. The only time I see something usually is after I hit post and whatever it is is directly above my most recent post. Those are the ones I respond to. Maybe if it's a slow uneventful match, like a Sunny Edwards or Bivol match, I'll click my notifications between rounds.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I had it a draw, based on giving Davis the final round. I'm fairly certain other than that last round, we had it the exact same.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Don't worry IB, I watched it on a faulty laptop in a classroom on the shittiest internet of all-time, having to hide it from my tutor every time he came near the back of the room. The version of the fight I watched was some unsteadily held camcorder copy from like 20 rows back. :lol:
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    My lasting impressions of Cruz heading into this were him getting a mild gift over Mattice, and failing to stop Bandido in spite of hurling the kitchen sink at him - so those skewed my perspective a bit (and I hadn't seen a few of his other recent matches).

    But yeah, the writing definitely was on the wall in terms of Tank being easy to shell-shock if you can stand up to his power (which unlike past KO victims Cruz is actually big & tough enough to do) and keep plowing forward.
     
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  11. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    The only poster with trustworthy scorecards;)
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it a draw. And side note I think Lomachenko destroys Tank.
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The village idiot had it as a Tank blow out. Not only that but said Tank was hurting Cruz in several rnds and piling it on. When I asked for a rnd he couldn’t provide one.