Can Loma regain his p4p number 1 spot?

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He sure as hell did not beat him.
    The first one was a certain L, the second was no more than a draw since Golovkin swept the later rounds.
     
  2. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he did and no they can't be argued. They're only argued by Canelo fangirls who want to cling to something meaningful.. He lost both fights 8-4.

    They were all competitive close fights.. But that does not mean there cannot be a clear amount of rounds one fighter wins. (Canelo has no case for 6 rounds in any of those three fights)

    Before the clear as day fix fights and GGG2 fights, I found Canelo tolerable. After Kovalev I felt disgusted at how obviously fixed his fights are and how his team are deceiving anyone below 50 IQ.

    Smith lasting the distance does not in the slightest mean he did not dive/take the fix. And what beating? Canelo landed a few headshots here and there but a lot was just on the arms.
    Yildrim literally didn't throw a punch and the fight was called off after a few body punches. Canelo has the magic ability to stop his bigger opponents from not throwing punches despite not being that great of a counterpuncher (he is definitely a good CP, but let's not overrate this ability). This just simply does not happen. There are many better counterpunchers where the opponent, yes may be hesitant, but they'll throw punches back and with intent.

    Yildrim was throwing punches at Eubank whilst he was in the process of getting knocked out yet against Canelo he did not throw anything.

    I've seen Yildrim spar harder against Canelo (yes they were sparring partners) and looked more real than that pathetically staged affair.

    Your proof of Kovalev not being a fix is exactly the same as mine. There's no evidence to say it was a real fight apart from the judges outcome and promoters telling you so. But we all know those aren't trustworthy sources in the first place.

    What evidence do you expect exactly? Disclosure from Kovalev (which he kinda did) or a document released saying the fight is a fix? That kind of information will likely never be released. The only evidence is the fight itself. And the Kovalev fight tells you everything you need to know.

    Canelo's an absolute conman of monumental proportions. I can't fathom why anyone would be a fan or support him.
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Lomachenko is clearly the best boxer in the world today. He's quicker, slicker, smarter and stronger than anybody else pound for pound. He is by far the best boxer since Floyd hung em up.

    I just don't see a peer. Maybe Shakur in a couple of years.
     
  5. JSpizz

    JSpizz Jay Spizz. Full Member

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    Ok, so Yildrim and Kovalev make you suspicious. Fair enough.

    That smith beating was savage though, run it back and look how ****** smith looks in those later rounds, he's getting his guard broken with huge uppercuts and taking huge hooks aswell, if I was gonna take a dive against Canelo I certainly wouldn't stand there for 12 rounds of getting battered like that.

    I'm a reasonable man, I like to think I can have my mind changed when appropriate. But there's NO WAY your gonna convince me that smith didn't take a savage beating that night. I actually think he beat Smith worse than BJS and plant IMO.
     
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  6. JSpizz

    JSpizz Jay Spizz. Full Member

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    Loma could definitely get right up there on the P4P list.
    Kambo, Haney & Tank or Garcia wins would get him right up there, IMO he's the best technical boxer fighting today, his only downfall is his size at his chosen weight class
     
  7. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    No because he was never #1 and he doesn’t have the ability to be. Usyk cleared out the stronger CW division without losses and won the #1 title in boxing, winning unified heavyweight titles. Loma will never be able to beat either of the people who already beat him. If he somehow became undisputed at 135 and 140 he’d have an argument. But he doesn’t have the ability to do that.
     
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  8. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    >Calls people delusional and stupid
    >Claims Kovalev fight was fixed
    >claims you can’t possibly score 6 rounds for Canelo in Lara and Golovkin 2


    Learn how burden of evidence works. Negative claims don’t need proof, ie, “Canelo vs Saunders wasn’t fixed” doesn’t need proof like th positive claim “Canelo vs Saunders was fixed” does.
     
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  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You literally have said nothing of value here.

    Regardless of burden of proof, your evidence of the fight being real relies on the promotion making it out as if it is. And Clenelo and the team behind him are money driven conjobs.

    I can reasonably conclude, from having actually watched the Kovalev fight and there being trends in Canelo's fights, that Canelo participates in staged circus shows.

    The evidence is watching the fights. You're not gonna get a disclosure but it's very reasonable to think these pathetic "fights" are fixes.
     
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  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lmao! the guy just completely undressed you with a couple of lines. you being too stupid, or too delusional to see it, is not gonna change reality. you are always so overmatched that i doubt you live under your own care. its pitiful.
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He literally said nothing of value what are you talking about you deranged half wit
     
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  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you frickin idiot. reread that, then embarrass yourself further by not understanding it.
     
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  13. Jackman65

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    He definitely has a shot but it’s going to be difficult if Usyk beats Fury. If that happens I can’t see anyone close to Usyk. Crawford and Spence don’t appear close to fighting any time soon and there are no great opponents not named Spence for Crawford to fight at 147. Canelo is talking about cruiserweight, and in typical Canelo fashion avoiding all the toughest guys at LH to fight the softest cruiser. If he targeted Bivol or Beterbiev and beat them legitimately (not a gift decision) you have to include him in the conversation. Loma is fighting guys two weight classes above his weight and looked very good with his healthy right arm. The biggest challenge he will have is finding guys willing to fight him. Tank is not interested (Floyd is protecting his cash cow), Kambosos will probably take the easier opponent in Haney which knocks both of those guys out of the picture. If Loma gets the Kambosos fight and wins, it opens the door to a Haney fight and maybe Tank will step up. If he beats all those guys he’s in the conversation but not top spot if Usyk beats Fury. I care less about PFP than I do seeing great championship fights. Hope we see some great ones next year.
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You clearly haven't understood what I'm trying to say in my posts you utter tool.

    Stop replying to my posts you cringe fangirl. Go back to watching Conelos fixed fights you easily fooled spastic
     
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  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    gtfoh with that ****, youve been begging for my attention for a while now. well, you got it. just like that other mutt, jackman65, who thought he wanted my attention...till he got it. now hes reduced to coming at me through likes. :lol:
    typical of your type, lol.