Who was the most unbeatable at a weight class?

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  1. MoneyMay1

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    What fighters do you believe are unbeatable if they stuck to a certain weight class?

    For me, I have 3 fighters to mind:

    Floyd Mayweather- 130. He was lightning quick and he had knockout power at that age.

    Roberto Duran- 135. A pitbull at lightweight

    Roy Jones Jr.- 168. He was so good at this class he had to move up in weight to get a decent opponent.


    Bonus round: Hagler- 154. If he fought in the modern era with day before weigh ins, He would be a Jr Welterweight. I wouldn't be surprised if he could go down to 147 in this era. He was unbeatable at 160. Just imagine as a welterweight, scary!
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Duran was so unbeatable at 135, he lost within six months after winning the title!
     
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    Moonlight Walking in the moonlight... lonely.. as always.. Full Member

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    Usyk ---> Cruiserweight
    Canelo ---> 168
    Duran ---> 135
    Mayweather ---> 130
    Robinson ---> 147
     
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  4. MoneyMay1

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    No one is beating prime healthy Duran. No one. He went up 15 lbs and beat a top 10 fighter all-time, SRL, at his absolute peak.
     
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    Holyfield at Cruiserweight.
     
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    Joe Louis from 1937 to 1948
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Unbeatable against all the other all-time greats in their weight class? Nobody.
     
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    Canelo at 168lb?

    Gaping fanny.
     
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    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gomez at 122, though Garza, Negron, and Chandler if he moved up in weight would have given him a run there.
     
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    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    If we are picking one guy at one weight class during their actual career, it has to be Sugar Ray Robinson at 147. Following that would be the middleweight Carlos Monzon.
     
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    Michael Nunn at 160 around the time of the Tate/Roldan/Kalambay bouts
     
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    Armstrong at FW.
    Fitzsimmons at MW
    Borkorsor at FW
    Argeullo at FW
    Langford at MW
    Charles at MW
    Open for debate... keep well.
     
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    Jung Koo Chang at 108
    Wilfredo Gomez at 122
    Roberto Duran at 135
    Ray Robinson at 147
    Marvin Hagler at 160
    Roy Jones at 168
    Ezzard Charles at 175

    None of them are unbeatable but very few boxers in history could beat them at their best in these weight classes.
     
  14. TBooze

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    Duran stands proud in the room as MoneyMay1 makes their statement, then looks a bit sheepish as Esteban DeJesus enters...


    To my mind Duran is the finest 135lber ever, better at the weight than both Leonard (Benny) and Armstrong, he was that good. But no one is unbeatable, and on a given night even the best can slip up as DeJesus showed, almost twice...
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on how fine you want to split hairs, but the DeJesus loss was over the weight at junior welter (couple of pounds over lightweight really) in a non-title bout.

    For some fighters a change in weight division by only a few pounds over their best weight can make a difference, Wilfredo Gomez being one prime example. We of course saw an older, more mature Duran succeed at higher weights but at this time it might have been the difference between being a perfectly-tuned machine and one that runs really well.

    Sandy Saddler was nearly unbeatable at 126 for a long stretch, in my estimation. That one loss to Willie Pep throwing his ‘perfect game’ means he wasn’t completely unbeatable but otherwise his losses once he matured into his prime pretty much came above that weight (and to good fighters). I think that couple of pounds edge was a big difference to him (maybe he just didn’t have to starve and thus wasn’t as mean, haha).

    So I’d still wager that Duran at 135, Gomez at 122 and Saddler at 126 were about as close to unbeatable as could be at a weight (had they strained to stay at those weights in their later careers, however, the drain of making the division after they had outgrown it would have shown sooner or later).

    I’d put Roy Jr in the same company at 168.