Is Vasyl Lomachenko p4p the GOAT?

It's far too early to say really as he's not had many Pro fights and I don't count Am's when considering P4P or resume.

That being said his achievements so far have been super impressive the losses also don't go against him too badly. With one being only his second fight going for a title and the fight with Teo being I believe a tactical mistake conceeding too many rounds early on.

So it really depends on how active he is over the next few years.

Although I think he will suffer against being compared to other ATG just by virtue of having far less fights overall.

One of the most skilled fighters actively who is fun to watch and be in awe of his movemnt and the ability to clown elite fighters.

 

Round 11 vs pedraza is my absolute favorite round of boxing ever! It was literally magic!

 

I know my boy Beouche is trollin. Its funny that some people are actually debating this like we dont already know what it is... Great Job @Beouche you got people to bite!

 

He's certainly top 10-15 when it comes to pure boxing skill

 

At his natural weight, Loma has no equal. It’s funny to see the same people who cheer for weight bullies and PED cheats slag Loma as he routinely fights guys two weight classes above his natural weight. No rehydration clauses, no gift decisions from judges, no diva antics just next level boxing from a natural 126 pounder with tiny T-Rex arms. The most entertaining fighter in boxing, maybe the most entertaining in history. At his natural weight of 126 with same day weigh in, I’ll take Loma over anyone.

 

Most entertaining in history? Jack put that whiskey down mate. Daniels is ready for bed!

 

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Except Salido, obviously.

 

I don't.

Lomachenko is not going to go down as an ATG, HOF'er yes, ATG, he simply isn't. I Love Lomachenko, he's a gifted fighter, he's one of my favorite active fighters, but he's not even remotely near P4P GOAT, Not top 10, Not top 20, not even remotely.

 

Salido low blowed his way to victory. Loma would have schooled him in the rematch, hence why Salido never took the fight again.

 

The greatest featherweights of all-time don't need two fights to beat Salido. And no he didn't, he pressured Loma, worked his body and fouled him. Imagine what somebody like Saddler or Armstrong would do to him.

 

I counted about 3 serious low blows during that fight. It was a very dirty display from Salido. He won, but on an even playing field with no constant fouls on salidos part, loma could have won that fight. There was a reason why Salido never wanted a rematch.

 

You guys are hilarious. Slack jawed mouth breathers, Salido doe. Salido was a coward who came in overweight and had to throw dozens of low blows to try to beat a guy in his second pro fight, the first 12 round fight of his life. Like the coward he was, Salido turned down career $$ to duck a rematch. He should have been DQ’d five times in that fight.

Boxing needs more fighters like Loma who aren’t afraid to take chances with tough opponents. Most guys these days are too obsessed with protecting a zero on a puffed up record. You aren’t a boxing fan, you are a chump who buys into the hype of most cherry picking “champs” these days. Guys like Tank Davis who would rather take a bullet than face a legit challenger. As long as suckers are willing to buy it, the corrupt promoters who are ruining the sport will continue to serve it up.

But Salido, doe…

 

It's genuinely baffling that a lot of people unironically think Loma is the GOAT or even close to it. He is the best amateur of all time, but that is meaningless. How are 3 round fights with larger gloves and mostly headgear an indication that you are better than the likes of even low tier all time greats like Jake Lamotta ? He is nowhere near the likes of Floyd or Pacquiao, let alone the true GOAT candidates like Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Langford and Charles.

As far as Pro fights go, the main argument seems to be how he has fought so many world champions and highly rated guys in only 18 fights. I assume people have forgotten that Loma is almost 34, he is going to be lucky to have 30 fights by the time he is done. And when he eventually retires, the whole "He has faced so many top guys in such a short amount of time" shtick is going to turn into" This small amount of fights are the entirety of his career", and then his resume will not be percieved to be as impressive as it's percieved to be now, because he just hasn't faced any truly great guys. Sure he has got elite skills and looks great, but it's easy to look amazing against lesser competition in comparison to the guys the ATGs faced and beat.

 

Id argue Salido took advantage of Lomas naivety by coming in as a Welterweight and not evening trying to make weight, then using low blows which for some reason didn’t result in any point deductions.

Don’t agree with the OP though.