Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

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Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

  1. Tommy by KO

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  2. Tommy by Dec.

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  3. Joe by KO

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  4. Joe by Dec.

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Then no wonder Jersey Joe lost to Louis twice. Jersey Joe was already showing signs of inferior 80s-90s boxing technique.

    You've just proved my point! :eek:
     
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  2. moneytheman12

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    see now you doing that as legend magoo does losing a match or winning has nothing to do with the beforehand why dont you people get that and

    if joe would had lost would his movement still not be the same his movement doesnt look different like your trying to act like just cause he won it's odd that your acting like it does buddy cross

    you keep forgetting I dont think the same old way as others and that quotes dont work good with me

    jers lost cause he was going toe to toe instead of sticking to his better movement
    my point is fact
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I reply as follows, per my previous argument:

    "Joe Louis's 1930s movement was better than Walcott's movement. Walcott's movement looked more like 80s-90s movement, which is why Walcott was less skilled than Louis. 80s-90s movement is inferior to 30s movement. Not a single 90s guy moves like Louis. You can't show me a single one. That proves the 80s-90s skills were inferior. Facts."
     
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  4. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    the trolling is bad here
     
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  5. cross_trainer

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    Not really an answer.

    Your arguments consistently assume what has to be proved. You've never really demonstrated that Joe Louis was unskilled. You've just stated he was different than 90s guys.

    My post exposes your argument as a bad one by arguing the opposite. If your argument is correct, you should have a more detailed response.
     
  6. doopapoopy

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    Tommy Morrison lost to three guys. Ray Mercer was 225, Michael Bentt was 226, and Lennox Lewis was 241. He didn't lose to some 200 pound flow footed club fighter like Joe Louis. We aren't talking about historically speaking. I mean factually. If you honestly think Joe Louis a natural 195/200 pound guy could compete against Tommy Morrison then you should give up boxing.

    Joe Louis never got any the ring with anybody was nearly as killed as Morrison. Even if you want to question Morrison's chin I will say this. Morrison again was knocked down by 200 plus pound guys. Joe Louis was knocked down by various sub 200 pound guys. Light punching 190 pound Jimmy Braddock knocked Louis down for crying out loud. Braddock also started his career weighing in the 160's. Billy Conn a natural 160 pound guy was able to hurt Louis. Slob Tony Galento was able to hurt Louis badly. But yeah Tommy Morrison wouldn't be able to do the same but keep Joe down because "historically" speaking Joe Louis better.
     
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  7. moneytheman12

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    the thing is they dont really believe joe could beat tom it's a act who looks at how joe moves and like you said struggling with the people he struggled with and can see he hits let alone beat tom or anybody from that time-80s

    the people tom lost to moved better then joe era and they punched with better tech had tom been in that era nobody would call him weak cause he never would lose
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    The scale won't help him. He can bring it in the ring with him. Tommy Morrison never knocked anybody out and he gonna beat Joe Louis? The Brown Bomber would be 202lbs of lightening on his a$$.
    Not to mention Morrison had major stamina issues. By the mid rounds Tommy hit about as hard as Slapsie Maxie Rosenbloom.
     
  9. janitor

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    You seem to be of the opinion, that size is the only variable that matters in boxing.

    You could quite easily find a middleweight who took a punch better than Morrison.
     
  10. Pugguy

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    You brought up weight. Louis fought several guys somewhat heavier than those who FLATTENED Tommy and, as it so happened, Louis FLATTENED them.

    Braddock’s counter right uppercut clearly caught Louis off balance and Joe was up in no time and obviously not hurt. That KD is milked beyond practical as one of several desperate attempts to bang on Joe’s chin.

    Btw, when he fought Louis, Braddock was 197 lb NOT 190 lbs but it never hurts to shave some weight off to make a “point”.

    Braddock used to fight in the 160s - underfed, underweight - but why not go further back for even better effect, Braddock’s birth weight was probably around 8 lbs - so Joe’s chin must’ve been literal crystal.

    Braddock was actually a naturally big framed guy anyway, standing a good 6’ 2 1/2”, on par with Max Baer and he dwarfed later champs like Marciano and Patterson etc.
     
  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    You should know…...being the poster MOST guilty of same. It’s the ONLY thing you’ve managed to prove beyond any doubt.

    Keeping it real……
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest, you aren't really bringing anything else to the table.
     
  13. doopapoopy

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    Lol and how did Joe Louis knockout? A bunch of 180 pound club fighters? Tommy Morrison knocking out Razor Ruddock was more impressive than any knockout Joe Louis had. But you get blocked. I only type to people who actually know boxing. Bye bye.
     
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  14. moneytheman12

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    why are you trolling legend when you said here the better modern mover moves better then joe fought

    but today say how a better moving then joe era like Frazier was now says how tom would lose even though he hit harder then anybody joe fought and could box or just attack his opponent straight on and joe had bad defense
     
  15. doopapoopy

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    Buddy Baer, Abe Simon were bigger fighters but crude. So crude that Deontay Wilder is a expert boxer compared to them.

    Braddock was still a natural 160 pound guy kid. I don't care how you try to justify him knocking down Louis. No 160 pound guy knocked down Tommy Morrison. Also James Toney fought as high as 250 pounds. That doesn't make it his natural weight. Braddock was as low as 160 something and spent more of his career in the 180's

    Also because you are taller it makes you natural big framed guy? Are you 10 years old kid? Bob Foster was 6'3 just like George Foreman. That doesn't make Foster is as big as Foreman.

    My point stands little kid. The fighters Joe Louis fought would be considered club fighters by modern standards. Even somebody like Dominic Breazeale would of been champion back in Joe Louis time.

    Morrison destroys Joe Louis in a few rounds tops.
     
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